Ya know, I don't recall having a hard time with adhesion. What I remember was the COST. $75. (+s/h) for a tub and not a huge tub either. And that was the cost BB....(before Brisa). Brisa defines my use of "modern" gel. And, I had to order that tub of LCN from Conn.....the only place in the US, at the time, that I could find that sold it. I had been introduced to it at the ABA in Calgary. Marsha McDonald Rubino Gimme Nails @Red Union Salon 713 E. 13th St. Upper Suite Whitefish, Montana [email protected]
________________________________ From: Caralyn <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:45:13 AM Subject: NailTech:: Re: Sorry .. Resin again ---LCN Melony Don't feel bad neither could I. Caralyn Sent from Caralyn's iPhone On Jan 20, 2009, at 10:55 PM, [email protected] wrote: Hey Pati, I tell you, I have no clue whatsoever why I couldn't make LCN work! I sat with 2 different educators, did the same exact things they did... Oh yeah, I DID apply it the same way I apply Brisa.... The problem was within a week, the product was lifting on almost everyone I used it on! I followed the manufacturers directions to a TEE... I was using LCN lamps with brand new bulbs... I eliminated every possible reason that could be causing the lifting.... Yes, including brand new primer and brushes... I could not make that product work! That coupled with all the stuff in my previous post is why I used the term "different".... In an attempt to be diplomatic! Haha! I don't want to offend any LCN users out there... But I swear... I couldn't make it work! Melody M Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. Cellular ________________________________ From: Pati Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:42:11 -0500 To: <[email protected]> Subject: NailTech:: Re: Sorry .. Resin again ---LCN it IS more expensive I agree with that....I never wiped off the dispersion layer in between cures! I applied it the same way i would Brisa...and they both stayed great! I do know you have to have a strong lamp for LCN...maybe your bulbs were off? Pati To: Pati From: God "Not what you wanted. Not what you asked for, nor what you deserve. You weren't supposed to get this -- but I made you strong enough to deal with it. How you view this gift, is entirely your choice." -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: NailTech Group <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 9:57 pm Subject: NailTech:: Re: Sorry .. Resin again ---LCN Haha! LCN IS gel... They call it resin for marketing purposes. It costs about three times what Brisa costs. They market this product as "organic..." Smilz... And, as a whole, the "general public" has no clue what that really means! Haha! How many times have we had THAT discussion i n here, ladies? Giggles... I have used this LCN product. From every application I have laid-- assuming its chemical formula is still the same as it was about 2 years ago-- you only get about 80% cure on it.... MEANING the 20% that is left remaining is the "dispersion" layer; i.e., that which chemically is unable to "cure.". SO.. With most gel systems, you simply apply your next layer of gel on top of the dispersion (tacky) layer so it can bond (cure) to it, etc etc, creating the artificial nail. With LCN, the dispersion layer is so great, you have to wipe it off, buff, and apply more product after curing each layer... So.. In light of the cost of this product AND the amount of it that doesn't cure.... I never understood why anyone ever uses it! But, most techs who use LCN around here charge like 75.00 for a set of P/Ws and 45.00 for 2wk fills! And I guess they have to in order to purchase it! Anyway... That was my experience with LCN.... Maybe I just didn't know how to hold my mouth! Melody Montgomery Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. Cellular -----Original Message----- From: "Dayna - Days of Beauty" <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:39:35 To: <[email protected]> Subject: NailTech:: Re: Sorry .. Resin again ---LCN She at first came in to me asking me if I could help her with Gels and Acrylics. I agreed. Then she asked me to help her with Resin, but she confused me when she said the resin looked like gel. That is when I came here for help. I thought I was losing my mind. Because I learned that Resins were in the same family as Silk and Fiberglass and she was talking resin-gel. That is what I originally wanted to clarify. THEN she tells me that the Resin she wants help with was LCN and the Salon owner stated to her that if she brushed up on her gel skills that LCN would be easier for her. I was taught that LCN was a gel, and now they are saying resin?? . I have had little experience with LCN, and I agree with you Melody, it IS a different product. Nothing like a bunch of marketing hooey to get this Nail Technician growing an extra few gray hairs! Thanks everyone :) Dayna Days of Beauty Ontario - CANADA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:13 PM To: NailTech Group Subject: NailTech:: Re: Sorry .. Resin again ---LCN Dayna, If she is being required to use LCN...and asking you to teach her... She is asking you to teach her that particular gel system. I am20basing this solely on the previous posts... Please scroll down.... Based on your description here, she is trying to learn LCN. Make sure she is correctly communicating to you the system she is trying to learn because to me, I am not hearing "wraps" on any level. And, if it is LCN.... Be prepared to use a product that is totally different than any other gel system I have ever experienced!! Haha!! TRUST ME! Melody Montgomery Sent from my BlackBerryR wireless device from U.S. Cellular -----Original Message----- From: <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:02:00 To: <[email protected]> Subject: NailTech:: Re: Sorry .. Resin again ---LCN The reason why I am askingis that I want other nail techs to back me up in this. A prospective student is asking me to teach her "resin" and I explained to her what it is then solidified it with your emails. The more the merrier please :) Thanks ladies :) Dayna Sent to you on my palm R wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Tanis Darling" <[email protected]> Subj: NailTech:: Re: Sorry .. Resin again ---LCN Date: Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:02 pm Size: 5K To: <[email protected]> Hi Dayna, Where are you in Ontario? P erhaps I can point you in the direction of some solid "NO marketing hooey" education.. Tanis (Darling) Payne ----- Original Message ----- From: Dayna - Days of Beauty To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 3:20 PM Subject: NailTech:: Sorry .. Resin again ---LCN I understand what you have all told me about the Resin, being similar to Wraps. However a Nail Salon here in Town say they use LCN Resin that is similar to a gel. Someone please explain. Dayna Days of Beauty Ontario - CANADA ________________________________ A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. 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