Hello Ladies , I am going to put in my two cents on this subject... As one who stopped attending nail shows a while ago I can see why some Nail product company's are not spending the money to attend all the shows that are sponsored around the country.
If you add up the cost of renting a booth, setting up the booth, shipping the supplies and advertising structures that are needed to display the booth, the staff and cost of flying, feeding, and housing staff to demonstrate in these booths, I am sure I have missed many other costs of trade shows.They R spending thousands of dollars. Sales at these events have got to make it a lucrative investment. In the old days ( as I have been around since then, 1978) there were not as many company's out there and they certainly were not offering as many products as we have now! Almost every nail company now has it's own acrylic line, gel line, manicure and pedicure treatments, not to mention pedicure bowls, thrones, chairs, files, gels, cleansers, buffers, polishes, products etc. etc. it just goes on and on. So you see... we all want something different and to see and use the very best products we find out there. It takes hours sometimes to read up about it all. Purchasing or getting lucky to get a free sample of a product that hits the market is a bonus. But it can also become costly to to try everything. That is why this site is so helpful to be able to weed out the good from the not so good. Our profit margin shrinks when we use good Name Brand Products. We pay the price to have these quality products to offer our clients. We do have to charge more than discount salons to afford name brand products. I personally want to be at the top of my game, But,.....it takes away money I desperately need to stay in business and keep my head above water financially during this difficult time in the economy. I have flexible income, never the same each week and battling to stay in business with a discount salon in every plaza sometimes two!. There is an entire 2 decades of women out there who think a manicure is what you get when you go to a DS or that 23 minutes is enough time to do a good pedicure. It's not. They have never had a truly professional service because that's where they were introduced to the nail craze and have never had to pay full service salon prices to get their nails done. Anything I spend 23 minutes doing is done well because I am meticulous and a perfectionist in my nail work but I devote 1 hour to my reg. pedicures and 45 minutes at least to my reg. manicure. So you see I am not saying that we can't do good work in a short time period because we do when we have to. I am saying that it's not the norm or the purpose to be fast and furious and expect to offer a nice experience to our clients who want to relax and feel the pamper that they desperately need. I am in favor of lower prices for attending shows... lower prices for education classes, $150.00 is still a lot of money to me and to spend that much for a class well... let's just say that I better be able to bring something to the table with me to make it worth it. I totally identified with the remark made that there are no freebies given , door prizes, extras etc. given away. The prices/discounts at nails shows are not near as good as they used to be years ago. It has all changed. No matter what city Nail Show Sponsors decide to have a show in many people still have to travel a great deal to attend it and at a premium cost for gas, meals, and investment in product at the show, as do (All our manufacturers whoever you are interested in)also travel to put it on. I have limited access to nails supplies, Sally Beauty Supply with one page dedicated to nails what a joke but I need to shop there for some CND products, files, SecheVite, and quite a few of the things I use. Armstrong McCall closing in my areas. Can't even find CND colors in any supply house near me. Maly BS carry's some things I need and I am in and out of there for OPI.&CND. Anything that has to be shipped from another location adds to the cost of the investment. Shipping has become expensive as well as sales taxes in CA are 8.75%. Everybody wants to make a buck from the big corporates salaries to the nail techs. The big companies will have no income if nail techs stop supporting their products by purchasing them to use. It needs to be a two way street. If the nail industry were to fail they would be out of a job. So I don't appreciate being treated like a second class citizen when I pay their salaries (with my purchases). I would love it if one of the big supply houses opened in the San Diego area I might be able to do one stop shopping like the Old Days at a Nail Show. As an example last week I drove 1 hour to Irvine, CA on a Friday night during 4:30 PM rush hour to Tammy Taylor Nails with 10 minutes to spare in order to get her NEW SOG so I could work with it over the weekend. I'm glad I happen to live so close as to be able to do that. Gas and time was all it cost me extra. The rep stayed open 1/2 hour for me to make it there. I appreciated it very much and by the way I like her new product a lot. Put a set of SOG on my toenails for the first time and I don't even like pink and white toes ON ME! But I am thrilled to be changing my mind. I don't know what the answer to these dilemma's is but I'm still out here dog-paddling. I feel your frustration. Not exactly where I thought I'd be after 32 years, but I'm hanging in there. So when one of my clients asks me who does my nails?.. I tell them "you're looking at her" with a smile on my face! Vickie England e-Nails Salon Encinitas CA 760-519-1579 [email protected] ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, March 1, 2010 11:48:15 AM Subject: Re: NailTech:: why support large trade shows when they don't support us nail techs? Well Katherine, I have to agree with you on many points. I know this is going to be touchy for many people, but this is how I see it: I paid quite a bit of money to attend an event that was touting quite a few big name educators. Turned out that there was less than a handful of them and one tossed in to make it seem like there was something else. I was excited by some of the people who were supposed to be there and then never showed/came. I understand the cost of these things, but if it is being advertised that "so-and-so" will be there, and I am paying for it, they should be there. If there are 8 at these other events and only four show up, this is a BUST. Networking events? It seems that some companies will give to some and not others. The one Dawn Flaharty ran was by far one of the best I attended. So when I see that there are good educators heading toward "some" networking events, I wonder why they feel that coming to say the Philly area is not good enough. Is it part of who you know? How does one get the great freebies and door prizes? Before I go to another paid event, I will wait until I know for SURE how many educators will be there and that I can get a VARIETY of things to learn and take back to my salon. Ho hum to the same thing over and over again. So there it is. I will go to some of the shows because there are other things there for me and in my area, PHILLY, the only thing here is Schoeneman shows and they flat out stink. Oh, and for the companies who are "losing" money by attending a show, that is not fully true. Their name is out there, they are seen and they can touch some who have not used their products. Then use the rest as a loss on taxes. That is a poor excuse. It is like us--get your name out there. Oh, and give us some lectures of substance!! Please, NO MORE GREEN. Give us business seminars. Buenos dias, Lynnette Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ________________________________ From: Katherine <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:12:14 -0800 (PST) To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: NailTech:: why support large trade shows when they don't support us nail techs? I prefer going to trade shows over networking events because my husband will not travel, so, the Las Vegas Cosmetology Convention has become my combined vacation and continuing education trip. I usually take an extra day to goof off in addition to the show. I like Vegas because there is so much to do and I do not need a car. I do not gamble, so I can spend as much as I want. I've done the Vegas trip on $200 and I've spent $800 some times. Depending on what I want to do. If I can only afford $200, that's what I do, if I want a longer or more luxurious vacation, I spend more. I can choose from year to year. I can also choose at the trade show what classes on what subject and with what product I want and it's a one to a one and a half hour class. Then I can walk on the trade floor and ask questions and get detailed demos on the spot. At a networking event, the whole day is long classes with too much information. I would only want a detailed, hands on seminar with the product that I use in the salon everyday. I do not want a 4 hour class on a product that I do not use in the salon. I want a 1 hour class for me to see if I'm interested in looking into and trying the product out. After I've tried it for a few months, then I might want a 4 hour class. I like the trade shows because of all the variety, I can sit in a class or walk around on the floor, leave whenever I want, even come back later. Completely submerging myself in a full day of education flips my A.D.D. button. I just can't take it. I start to zone out. I have to go watch a pirate ship sink or some fountains dance or eat at Wolfgang Pucks..... great food is half the fun of going to Vegas, I just eat my way across town. I'm disappointed at the low attendance and poor turn out at the nail classes in Vegas. I look forward to the Vegas show every year with such eagerness, it's better than Christmas! I guess that no one else does Vegas the way I do. It's my education opportunity and my get -a- way all rolled into one. Katherine St.Louis, MO ________________________________ From: Dayna - Days of Beauty <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, March 1, 2010 7:48:53 AM Subject: RE: NailTech:: why support large trade shows when they don't support us nail techs? I agree with Maggie. We need to let these companies know that we will support them if we see them at shows. However it is frustrating for companies to spend thousands of dollars, and plenty of time for these trade shows, and NO ONE attends their classes or visits their booth. Too many times have I seen empty booths at the trade shows, yet we are upset that they are not at the next show, how can we blame them? Dayna From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maggie in Visalia Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: NailTech:: why support large trade shows when they don't support us nail techs? Problem is, I'm willing to bet our frustration has NOTHING to do with the show or show organizers. Our nail industry companies have every bit the same opportunity to exhibit at these shows that companies from the hair and skin industries have. For reasons that range widely, more and more nail industry companies are choosing NOT to participate at these shows. It's not the SHOWS that we need to take our torches and pitchforks to-- it's the companies that we want to see at the shows. Start writing letters and let these companies know you miss them at the shows. I've told my TT rep numerous times when he calls just before or just after a big tradeshow that I am "saving my money for the show" or that I "have to recover from" the show I just went to. Then I demand to know why they don't do any westcoast shows? Then I make a disapproving Wookie noise and tell him "that sucks." I admit, TT hasn't shown up at a west coast tradeshow because of this yet, and I have not-- as yet-- switch products... but I keep seriously considering doing so. I don't get why nail companies are so busy complaining about the cost of tradeshows when it seems that hair companies still find the expense worthwhile? Maggie Franklin: Attitudes Salon; Visalia, CA "Visionary rebel dreamer; obviously way ahead of my time." Art of Nailz Maggie Rants [and rav...@nails Magazine Facebook --- On Sun, 2/28/10, Jill in Ky <[email protected]> wrote: From: Jill in Ky <[email protected]> Subject: NailTech:: why support large trade shows when they don't support us nail techs? To: "NailTech" <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 6:00 PM That's the burning question.........why give your money, time, and effort to support a system that mainly caters to hair? Why do techs continually go out of their way to attend large trade shows, then come back and complain about the few nail classes and nail booths? My philosophy is that anyone can work without hair, but try letting them work without hands and feet! Perhaps we need a "bus boycott" or a "restaurant counter boycott"? What about our rights as nail techs to be treated equally with respect? Or perhaps respect begins by respecting oneself first? After all these years of routinely being referred to as "the nail girl", are we content to own that title? As a small business owners, we routinely support businesses that treat us right. If we're treated rudely or indifferently by a company, then we do not give them our repeat business. Why should choosing a location to receive nail tech education be any different? The grassroots efforts by nail techs to create networking events are gaining momentum, with new ones popping up all over the country, mainly because nail techs are frustrated by the steady decline in nail education at the large industry shows (with the exception of the Orlando show and kudos to Debbie Doerrlamm for organizing the corresponding nail tech BBQ). So if you're contemplating going to a large trade show, please consider supporting the networking events, too! What large trade show gives you lunch? None! You feel lucky to find a spot to sit on the floor to eat your $5 pizza slice with drink your $4 soda. No floor sitting at the Smoky Mountain Event, with all the comfy chairs and massive oak tables! Wander out thru the wall of french doors onto the tree-shaded balconey overlooking the stream, or rest in an adirondack chair in front of the Event Center while you eat your lunch and visit with like-minded nail techs (see photos on my Facebook page showing techs doing just that). When was the last time you received a goodie bag of nail products at a large trade show? Never! You're shocked just to get a sample, and then it's usually of a hair product. What a let down! Ever win a door prize at a large trade show? Nope! With only 100 guest reservations accepted, your chances of winning one of the many fabulous door prizes are extremely good. Everyone at the 1st Smoky Mountain Event went home with a prize, and the majority of the people at the 2nd Event did, too! Getting tired of milling through the crowd at a large trade show, trying to find the few nail booths? At the networking events, it's ALL about the nail techs. Nail techs' are the divas, so we celebrate our uniqueness by only featuring nail products demo'd by the rock stars of the nail world! Why support an industry that doesn't support you as a nail tech? Curious to see how you can make a difference? Support your nearest nail tech networking event now! Jill Wright Spa for Nails 728 Chestnut St. suite 200 Bowling Green, KY. 42101 (270) 799-3637 www.jillsnails.com [email protected] http://www.facebook.com/profile.phpid=1073352006 www.linkedin.com/in/jillwrightntnesmokymtns -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. 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