One thing to keep in mind....and it is a "chicken or the egg" thing. Is the gel curling over time and curling the nail or is the nail curling and pulling the gel with it.
I can only speak for my formula...and I can assure you, it's the nail that curls and pulls the gel with it. The gel is so flexible that when the nail dehydrates (from the exposed, underside of the free edge) and curls, it is able to pull the gel with it. My formula is not changing it's shape over the 1 - 2 weeks it's on the nail. And, btw, this happens to hard gel and Acrylics. The difference is, they are ridged enough to keep their shape. In stead of them curving with the nails, you get side lifting on the free edges as the nails curl away at the underside. Back in the day when I had clients that had nails that had a tendency to do this, I put them on a regimen of daily oil under the nail as well as at the cuticle. If they were 'super porous' and the oil wasn't good enough, I simply over layed the underside of their nail with some brush on resin. In the case of the soak off's, if your client has a bit of free edge growing out, encapsulate it in a coat of clear sog. You have to do this before it starts to curl. Now that you know XX particular client curls...trim back her nails to get rid of the dehydrated curled bit, and start overlaying the underside immediately. As it grows out, you won't have that deep curl. The solvents used to remove SOG's is very dehydrating. That's why we put the emollients in our Eco Soak off Solution along with the magic bits. LOL Kind Regards, Elaine T. Watson Star Nail International Vice President of Marketing and Sales Global Education Director 800.782.7624 extension 321 fax 661.257.5847 [email protected] Blog: itsnotarealjob.blogspot.com On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Marsha Rubino <[email protected]> wrote: > Penetration time is definately an issue! > > Marsha Rubino > Gimme Nails @ Skin Envy Day Spa > 38 First Ave E. Ste. E > Kalispell, MT 59901 > 406-755-3771 > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Simmy Bredal-Bell <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Wed, July 21, 2010 9:28:37 AM > > *Subject:* RE: NailTech:: Weird nails > > Well, I think I’m gonna change my answer, but I am wondering just how > long the oil would take to get to the nail… > > Common sense would say that it takes time for a small molecule oil to > penetrate just like it takes time for acetone to soak off. > > So I’d think that getting oil in the cuticle and the underside of the nail > would be much quicker and effective… > > I’ve CC’d Doug on this post… > > > > Simmy Bredal-Bell > *Vicki Peters, Inc.* > > *Vice President / Director of Education* > *Brick, NJ* > *[email protected]* <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On > Behalf Of *Marsha Rubino > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 21, 2010 11:09 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: NailTech:: Weird nails > > > > So we have a "yes" and a "no"! Perhaps it's time to call in Doug to get the > real skinny!! I posed this question several years ago and never got a > difinitive answer. > > > Marsha Rubino > Gimme Nails @ Skin Envy Day Spa > 38 First Ave E. Ste. E > Kalispell, MT 59901 > 406-755-3771 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Simmy Bredal-Bell <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Wed, July 21, 2010 8:38:27 AM > *Subject:* RE: NailTech:: Weird nails > > No. But you can apply the oil to the underside of the nail and it will > penetrate that way…. > > > > Simmy Bredal-Bell > *Vicki Peters, Inc.* > > *Vice President / Director of Education* > *Brick, NJ* > *[email protected]* <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On > Behalf Of *Marsha Rubino > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:18 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: NailTech:: Weird nails > > > > ......which brings me to raise another statement/question. Regular, hard > gel does not allow penetration of oils like Solar Oil. Correct? Now, with > these new SOGs in use, will they allow penetration of oil down to the nail > plate? > > > Marsha Rubino > Gimme Nails @ Skin Envy Day Spa > 38 First Ave E. Ste. E > Kalispell, MT 59901 > 406-755-3771 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Simmy Bredal-Bell <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Wed, July 21, 2010 7:27:11 AM > *Subject:* RE: NailTech:: Weird nails > > The SOG’s have a tendency to make natural nails curl. Even when it is on > the nail. Squeezes a beautiful c-curve into the free edge. The reason for > this is as the SOG gets old, it shrinks. As it shrinks, it curls. > Eventually it releases from the nail and you have lifting at the tip. The > solution is to soak off or file off every 4 weeks. 4-8 weeks is the magic > number for SOG. I got this info from a chemist who manufactures nail > products. > > And YES, before I get arguments…using cuticle oil to keep the natural nail > flexible DOES help! ;) > > > > Simmy Bredal-Bell > *Vicki Peters, Inc.* > > *Vice President / Director of Education* > *Brick, NJ* > *[email protected]* <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On > Behalf Of *Lisa Cianciotti > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:30 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: NailTech:: Weird nails > > > > I have found this to be true for my clients also. White spots, curling at > free edge, a few SOG coming off on a few nails. It seems to get worse every > time I do a soak off manicure. I have been buffing with oil before > reapplying and that has helped, but it seems to be worse on some clients. > > > Lisa > > Simply Polished Studio for Nails > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Terri Mullins <[email protected]> > *To:* Nailtech <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Tue, July 20, 2010 7:55:18 PM > *Subject:* NailTech:: Weird nails > > Weird nails after sog came off. My clients nails curled so tight they were > touching side to side. Touching c curve! I don't know why that happened. > The first time I soaked her nails they didn't do that. > > > > Different client called she has 3 sog's off. I didn't prime her nails > because she comes in every 2 wks. She said the free edge is peeling off. I > primed her nails the last 2 times. No problems. I will start priming the > free edge of her nails. Just like you girls have said!! > > > > Question on the cuticle oil before applying the sog... > > > > soak the sog off > > buff the nail with oil then wash nails and use finishing wipe? > > > > The oil and water concerns me with lifting and peeling. I've seen white > spots on every client that I have soaked off. Each time there are more > spots. > > > > Terri > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NailTech" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<nailtech%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NailTech" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<nailtech%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NailTech" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<nailtech%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NailTech" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<nailtech%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NailTech" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<nailtech%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NailTech" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<nailtech%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NailTech" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<nailtech%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NailTech" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<nailtech%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. 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