my little baby grand daughter has a pincer "baby" toenail. Ever since she could 
talk she always says, "no touch baby toe" ... she hates having it cut or filed 
and up until last week wouldn't even let me put polish on them!  I feel at such 
a loss...I can't help her..I keep telling my D-I-L to mention it to the dr.....


Pati

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From: Debbie Doerrlamm <[email protected]>
To: nailtech <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Feb 10, 2011 7:08 pm
Subject: Re: NailTech:: ingrown nails


Cathyren, I really agree with you here.. we recently hadthis discussion on the 
forums and that was a big point many made, thattoo many techs routinely snip 
the corners and this could actually causeproblems such as ingrowns. OK so now 
she got relief from the deep cutsfor 2-3 weeks, but pedi's are generally 6 wks, 
so now shes coming backsooner.. oops.. I really dont think thats a good 
businessdecision!

One recent pedi I had they used this really great new drill bit (Simmycan tell 
you about it). Immediately I was in less discomfort, I have notbeen in pain for 
a while, some days, just some level of discomfort. About2 weeks , maybe it was 
only 1 week, I was getting the numbness and painagain. I discussed with the 
tech and I also spoke to Simmy who explainedwhile this is a great bit, it 
really should not be used on pinchers likeI have.

I've got this fantastic itty bitty melon baller thingie tool hahaha Iknow there 
is a proper name for it .. but it escapes me right now :) andit does a 
fantastic job of cleaning the nasties out of the sidewall

Deb


At 10:38 PM 2/10/2011, you wrote:

I agree with Debbie. It seems towork best if the client will allow
you to keep the sidewall cleared out of debris with an ingrowntoenail
file, maybe pack it with cotton(this works in very few cases forme),
untill it grows past that point of digging in. Most clients are too
impatient and WANT a tech who will cut it out. I don't do"surgery",
but the gal I work with does. I feel it is out of my scope of
practice, but she gets a lot of business from people who aredesperate
for relief. I also think that if you keep it hydrated daily with a
good manicure oil, it won't curl in as much-causing pressure andpain.
I have wondered if it was a conspiracy from "discount" salonsthat
they cut the corners in soooo deep, that it causes ingrowns, so the
client HAS to come back for "help." Busy, or not, though, Idon't
think the liability is worth the risk.
Cathyren Provine

On Feb 10, 8:47 pm, Debbie Doerrlamm <[email protected]>wrote:
> This is probably against your state board license laws :) It wouldbe
> considered "invasive"
>
> I dont have ingrowns, hubby is bordering on them, mine are pinchertype.
>
> Many techs as a regular practice cut the corners deep  \_/butt
> that's not always the answer..
>
> I have tried several different methods and the only one thatbrought
> me relief was to allow the nails to grow out just past the edge -yes
> I get comments all the time.. got them puppies a little longdoncha??
> Well - they are not THAT long :) Also I have been doing hard gelor
> acrylic on the offending digits for months now and I am startingto
> see some change in the shape and the degree of"dooming/pinching".
>
> On hubby I have asked again to allow me to let them grow out pastthe
> edge.. he really doesnt want to start the podiatrist visits, sohe
> let me do this.. I clip just the sharp corner so it doesn't pokehim
> and he hasn;t whined about his toes in a while now ..
>
> BUT these methods dont work for everyone.. some find the deep cuts-
> and WE have to be VERY carful doing that - offer relief, some findit
> makes things worse.
>
> There even has been discussion about constant deep cutting the
> corners is creating ingrowns.. so watch what you are doingthere!
>
> Your best bet is to align yourself with a local podiatrist andrefer
> them over there.
>
> Debbie
>
> At 06:10 PM 2/10/2011, you wrote:
>
> >How many of you remove ingrown toenails? Is it against StateBoard,
> >depending on your state? I am needing some info on this subjectif
> >anyone has any. Thanks.
>
> >Angie
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