Hi Lisa I'm using a course sanding band (Atwood's). I use a foot pedal, so I am able to control my speed extremely well and am down to a level 3 (on my kupa, which is out of 10 I believe) when I'm around the sidewalls of the nails.
I too was big on not using an efile for years, I have only used one the last few years, and I took two E-file classes before then. I tell my clients I am certified, if they seem uncomfortable I show them what it feels like on my finger or theirs and while I *could* soak their nails off every time, the result is that their nails would be more damaged and they wouldn't have the benefit of the classic hard gel layer that gives added strength. Also, by having that thin layer of classic gel, their natural nails are protected from my efile. I don't use it on the natural nail. I don't use it around the cuticles. The only time I use an efile on natural nails is when I do toes (I don't do the classic gel layer on toes, I want to maintain flexible nails in shoes). And the bit I use on the natural nails on toes is a tiny diamond bit (#461) - I couldn't imagine doing gel toes without it!! As Angie said, if its not a regular client, you can apply it like Shellac with Base, color and top coat, get a few weeks wear out of it and soak it off. But for regular clients this technique works fabulous. Your not creating an arch and the layer is basically the thickness of a nice smooth top glossing. Not many techs out there do this technique - I call it the 30 day manicure (I think I have a class on it in Vegas at IBS) and I'll be doing a tutorial video soon (gotta get that whole movie editing thing down). Clients who are busy and don't have time for manicures every 2 weeks are thrilled they can go 6 weeks if they need to without a chip or their natural nail cracking at the stress area. I know, you say 6weeks??! Who wants to go that long?!?! Well when your client flies from Seattle to New York to Germany to Vienna for work and can't get back for that long, its a luxury to know their nails will hold up perfectly fine the whole time (except for a bit of grow out, which of course they typically wear french when they know they will go that long so its invisible anyway). Is it a natural nail service? I figure if they aren't coming back to me on a regular basis, I'll apply something they can remove at home and it can be called a "natural nail service" , otherwise its this technique every time I'm not doing a backfill. -Jess On Mar 6, 7:01 pm, Lisa Cianciotti <[email protected]> wrote: > Jess, > What kind of bit are you using to file the color off with? Sanding band or > carbide? > > Thanks! > > Lisa Cianciotti > Simply Polished Studio for Nails > Mount Pleasant, PA > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jess in WA <[email protected]> > To: NailTech <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 10:45:12 PM > Subject: Re: NailTech:: Re: Shellac color combos idea photos > > Jill I had clients with that problem also. I also had too many stress > area cracks and people's nails curling in at the C curve horribly. I > started doing a base layer of classic gel and then color - and efile > off the color when they return. ALL the problems went away. I think > Shellac is great for temporary use but for soaking so often I dont > think its beneficial to the clients health of their nails. > > just my opinion ;) > > Jess > > On Mar 3, 10:10 am, Jill in Ky <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I just stocked up on acetone because our Sally's had it on sale for > > $10 a gallon! I also use the foil/cotton/acetone method and I've been > > using the Miss Webril's cotton bands for years (6 rolls to a box) and > > I stock up on them when I find a good sale, too. > > > The price increase notices just got posted on my stations yesterday > > and I'm raising the Shellac (and all other uv gel polishes) Manicures > > to $37. I was charging $35, but with the cost of supplies I found I > > was under pricing it. I'd have to charge over $40 if I used the CND > > wraps because they cost $5 per each client, so I've never tried them. > > > I, too, am wondering if it's not harmful though to soak off in acetone > > every other week. I've had 2 clients who've had a nail or 2 become > > detached from the nail bed and I have no idea if this is a coincidence > > or if the hyponichium is drying out. One lady is going to the > > dermatologist, so I gave her the empty packaging for Shellac and told > > her to ask the Dr. about it and to also ask him if she shouldn't be > > soaking them off in acetone every other week. We'll see what happens > > at her next visit. > > > Jill Wright > > Bowling Green, KY. > > > On Mar 2, 8:14 pm, CAT BLUE <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > The Axxium is so hard to get off, I don't know if the foil method > > > would work. If you used the cool CND wraps, you'd HAVE to charge, no? > > > I got a gallon of acetone at RDA for $30! Sally's had it on sale for > > > $15 so I stocked up. I have had several people who complain about how > > > awful the acetone makes their fingers feel. > > > > On Mar 1, 9:47 am, Anna Z-James <[email protected]> wrote:> I'm not > >charging just yet but I am going thru acetone like crazy and was wondering > >the > >same thing the other day about having people exposed to the acetone so often > >and > >I did have a client that did have a reaction tot he acetone her finger tips > >got > >funky and ended up pealing after having blisters. I've tried both with the > >CND > >removal applications and with cotton and foil and the cotton and foil method > >seems to be best in time but the applications seem to work better for the > >excess > >of acetone, but the foil and cotton method is cheaper being that I can get a > >bag > >of cotton and a roll of foil for $2 at the 99 cent store and the applications > >are $4 a bag...HUM what's a girl to do? > > > > > Anna > > > > Creations by Anna Z-Jameswww.annazjames.com-----OriginalMessage----- > > > > From: CAT BLUE <[email protected]> > > > > To: NailTech <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 6:34 am > > > > Subject: NailTech:: Re: Shellac color combos idea photos > > > > > Are you guys really soaking off EVERY visit? Are you charging for the > > > > soak off? The cost of Acetone has really gone up and I just wondered > > > > if people are incorporating it into the cost of the service? What are > > > > you guys charging for the service? soak off? I'm using Axxium and only > > > > soaking off every few or several visits and charging for it. I have > > > > soaked off Shellac and it comes of MUCH easier, but is it really okay > > > > to soak in acetone so often? Thanks! > > > > Cat > > > > > On Mar 1, 6:31 am, "Holly L. Schippers" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > New combo ideas to get you started > > > > > >http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=283073&id=307317462263 > > > > > > Holly L. 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