I am not using both traditional gel and a clear base. Either I use a thin layer of traditional gel or a soak off base. Depends of if I want the option of soaking off or not. Is that what you are asking? Angie
________________________________ From: CAT BLUE <[email protected]> To: NailTech <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 8:54:13 AM Subject: Re: NailTech:: Re: Shellac color combos idea photos I am so glad to see that you guys are having the same issues because all I was reading before was how wonderful it all was. It is to nice to be able to be honest about these problems. How much of your concern are you sharing with your clients? Are you smiling through and not revealing your concern? They obviously can see what is happening and sometimes they are the ones who bring up what they have noticed; white spots, curling in. I have many of them on faithful daily application of Solar Oil and the improvement is minimal. On one client I have done the clear traditional gel, then either regular polish or gel polish-which seems like a double process I should charge more for. I get a little irritated when I have to 'blend' products to get results; that, to me, is like using 2 products, takes more time. I just wish products would deliver as they advertise and it was as simple as promised. I, too, have efiled off gel polish-axxium tends to get thick and rubbery after too many coats. I do agree, Jill, that the perception of the efile equals "artificial". BUT, I work with a girl who advertises proudly that she only hand files, but it's an 80 or 100 grit used for the entire service, which is more damaging than a higher grit bit or band. I have had to use that response a time or two . SO! If you are traditional gel base coat, then clear overlay gel, THEN gel polish color and topcoat, how long is it taking? how much do you charge? do you go right over the clear OL gel while tacky film is still on? AND which curing light are you guys using? The OPI one drives me and my clients nuts. I was using a 36 watt Forever Natural one from Nailco, but it crashed and burned after a year of continued use. Thanks, guys! On Mar 4, 11:39 am, Angela R Wingerter <[email protected]> wrote: > I totally agree with you Jill, but I am only doing this on my faithful every >two > week clients, because it has been too damaging for them to soak off that much. > They have fell in love with the polish being dry when they leave and staying on > for two weeks but they could also see how drying it was on their nails. So this > is a good alternative for them. I'm not creating an arch or changing the shape > of their nail but they are getting a little bit of added strength and the color > looks great when they come back after two weeks. > > Angie > > ________________________________ > From: Jill in Ky <[email protected]> > To: NailTech <[email protected]> > Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 9:02:07 AM > Subject: Re: NailTech:: Re: Shellac color combos idea photos > > That's very interesting and I'll give it more thought. The appeal to > clients is that it's a natural nail service though and if I start e- > filing off the color then that would move this service into the > "artificial" category that they wish to avoid. That's the biggest > drawback I can see and I honestly think it would be a deal-breaker for > many of my clients. I'll keep thinking on it though. > > Jill Wright > Bowling Green, KY > > On Mar 3, 11:33 pm, Angela R Wingerter <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > I am doing the same thing Jess is doing and having great results with no > drying > > out issues or white spots anymore. If it is a new client or a one time > occasion > > then I use the base that came with the system so it can be soaked off but I > > won't soak off every two weeks anymore. > > > > > Angie > > > ________________________________ > > From: Jess in WA <[email protected]> > > To: NailTech <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 9:45:12 PM > > Subject: Re: NailTech:: Re: Shellac color combos idea photos > > > Jill I had clients with that problem also. I also had too many stress > > area cracks and people's nails curling in at the C curve horribly. I > > started doing a base layer of classic gel and then color - and efile > > off the color when they return. ALL the problems went away. I think > > Shellac is great for temporary use but for soaking so often I dont > > think its beneficial to the clients health of their nails. > > > just my opinion ;) > > > Jess > > > On Mar 3, 10:10 am, Jill in Ky <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I just stocked up on acetone because our Sally's had it on sale for > > > $10 a gallon! I also use the foil/cotton/acetone method and I've been > > > using the Miss Webril's cotton bands for years (6 rolls to a box) and > > > I stock up on them when I find a good sale, too. > > > > The price increase notices just got posted on my stations yesterday > > > and I'm raising the Shellac (and all other uv gel polishes) Manicures > > > to $37. I was charging $35, but with the cost of supplies I found I > > > was under pricing it. I'd have to charge over $40 if I used the CND > > > wraps because they cost $5 per each client, so I've never tried them. > > > > I, too, am wondering if it's not harmful though to soak off in acetone > > > every other week. I've had 2 clients who've had a nail or 2 become > > > detached from the nail bed and I have no idea if this is a coincidence > > > or if the hyponichium is drying out. One lady is going to the > > > dermatologist, so I gave her the empty packaging for Shellac and told > > > her to ask the Dr. about it and to also ask him if she shouldn't be > > > soaking them off in acetone every other week. We'll see what happens > > > at her next visit. > > > > Jill Wright > > > Bowling Green, KY. > > > > On Mar 2, 8:14 pm, CAT BLUE <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The Axxium is so hard to get off, I don't know if the foil method > > > > would work. If you used the cool CND wraps, you'd HAVE to charge, no? > > > > I got a gallon of acetone at RDA for $30! Sally's had it on sale for > > > > $15 so I stocked up. I have had several people who complain about how > > > > awful the acetone makes their fingers feel. > > > > > On Mar 1, 9:47 am, Anna Z-James <[email protected]> wrote:> I'm not > > >charging just yet but I am going thru acetone like crazy and was wondering > the > > >same thing the other day about having people exposed to the acetone so often > >and > > >I did have a client that did have a reaction tot he acetone her finger tips > >got > > >funky and ended up pealing after having blisters. I've tried both with the > >CND > > >removal applications and with cotton and foil and the cotton and foil method > > >seems to be best in time but the applications seem to work better for the > >excess > > >of acetone, but the foil and cotton method is cheaper being that I can get a > >bag > > >of cotton and a roll of foil for $2 at the 99 cent store and the >applications > > >are $4 a bag...HUM what's a girl to do? > > > > > > Anna > > > > > Creations by Anna Z-Jameswww.annazjames.com-----OriginalMessage----- > > > > > From: CAT BLUE <[email protected]> > > > > > To: NailTech <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 6:34 am > > > > > Subject: NailTech:: Re: Shellac color combos idea photos > > > > > > Are you guys really soaking off EVERY visit? Are you charging for the > > > > > soak off? The cost of Acetone has really gone up and I just wondered > > > > > if people are incorporating it into the cost of the service? What are > > > > > you guys charging for the service? soak off? I'm using Axxium and only > > > > > soaking off every few or several visits and charging for it. I have > > > > > soaked off Shellac and it comes of MUCH easier, but is it really okay > > > > > to soak in acetone so often? Thanks! > > > > > Cat > > > > > > On Mar 1, 6:31 am, "Holly L. Schippers" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > New combo ideas to get you started > > > > > > >http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=283073&id=307317462263 > > > > > > > Holly L. 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