yes. thanks, Angie.

On Mar 6, 9:30 am, Angela R Wingerter <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I am not using both traditional gel and a clear base. Either I use a thin 
> layer
> of traditional gel or a soak off base. Depends of if I want the option of
> soaking off or not. Is that what you are asking?
>  
> Angie
>
> ________________________________
> From: CAT BLUE <[email protected]>
> To: NailTech <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 8:54:13 AM
> Subject: Re: NailTech:: Re: Shellac color combos idea photos
>
> I am so glad to see that you guys are having the same issues because
> all I was reading before was how wonderful it all was. It is to nice
> to be able to be honest about these problems. How much of your concern
> are you sharing with your clients? Are you smiling through and not
> revealing your concern? They obviously can see what is happening and
> sometimes they are the ones who bring up what they have noticed; white
> spots, curling in. I have many of them on faithful daily application
> of Solar Oil and the improvement is minimal.  On one client I have
> done the clear traditional gel, then either regular polish or gel
> polish-which seems like a double process I should charge more for. I
> get a little irritated when I have to 'blend' products to get results;
> that, to me, is like using 2 products, takes more time. I just wish
> products would deliver as they advertise and it was as simple as
> promised. I, too, have efiled off gel polish-axxium tends to get thick
> and rubbery after too many coats. I do agree, Jill, that the
> perception of the efile equals "artificial". BUT, I work with a girl
> who advertises proudly that she only hand files, but it's an 80 or 100
> grit used for the entire service, which is more damaging than a higher
> grit bit or band. I have had to use that response a time or two . SO!
> If you are traditional gel base coat, then clear overlay gel, THEN gel
> polish color and topcoat, how long is it taking? how much do you
> charge? do you go right over the clear OL gel while tacky film is
> still on? AND which curing light are you guys using? The OPI one
> drives me and my clients nuts. I was using a 36 watt Forever Natural
> one from Nailco, but it crashed and burned after a year of continued
> use. Thanks, guys!
>
> On Mar 4, 11:39 am, Angela R Wingerter <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > I totally agree with you Jill, but I am only doing this on my faithful every
> >two
> > week clients, because it has been too damaging for them to soak off that 
> > much.
> > They have fell in love with the polish being dry when they leave and staying
> on
> > for two weeks but they could also see how drying it was on their nails. So
> this
> > is a good alternative for them. I'm not creating an arch or changing the 
> > shape
> > of their nail but they are getting a little bit of added strength and the
> color
> > looks great when they come back after two weeks. 
> >  
> > Angie
>
> > ________________________________
> > From: Jill in Ky <[email protected]>
> > To: NailTech <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 9:02:07 AM
> > Subject: Re: NailTech:: Re: Shellac color combos idea photos
>
> > That's very interesting and I'll give it more thought. The appeal to
> > clients is that it's a natural nail service though and if I start e-
> > filing off the color then that would move this service into the
> > "artificial" category that they wish to avoid. That's the biggest
> > drawback I can see and I honestly think it would be a deal-breaker for
> > many of my clients. I'll keep thinking on it though.
>
> > Jill Wright
> > Bowling Green, KY
>
> > On Mar 3, 11:33 pm, Angela R Wingerter <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > I am doing the same thing Jess is doing and having great results with no
> > drying
> > > out issues or white spots anymore. If it is a new client or a one time
> > occasion
> > > then I use the base that came with the system so it can be soaked off but 
> > > I
> > > won't soak off every two weeks anymore.
>
> > >  
> > > Angie
>
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Jess in WA <[email protected]>
> > > To: NailTech <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 9:45:12 PM
> > > Subject: Re: NailTech:: Re: Shellac color combos idea photos
>
> > > Jill I had clients with that problem also.  I also had too many stress
> > > area cracks and people's nails curling in at the C curve horribly.  I
> > > started doing a base layer of classic gel and then color - and efile
> > > off the color when they return.  ALL the problems went away.  I think
> > > Shellac is great for temporary use but for soaking so often I dont
> > > think its beneficial to the clients health of their nails.
>
> > > just my opinion ;)
>
> > > Jess
>
> > > On Mar 3, 10:10 am, Jill in Ky <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I just stocked up on acetone because our Sally's had it on sale for
> > > > $10 a gallon! I also use the foil/cotton/acetone method and I've been
> > > > using the Miss Webril's cotton bands for years (6 rolls to a box) and
> > > > I stock up on them when I find a good sale, too.
>
> > > > The price increase notices just got posted on my stations yesterday
> > > > and I'm raising the Shellac (and all other uv gel polishes) Manicures
> > > > to $37. I was charging $35, but with the cost of supplies I found I
> > > > was under pricing it. I'd have to charge over $40 if I used the CND
> > > > wraps because they cost $5 per each client, so I've never tried them.
>
> > > > I, too, am wondering if it's not harmful though to soak off in acetone
> > > > every other week. I've had 2 clients who've had a nail or 2 become
> > > > detached from the nail bed and I have no idea if this is a coincidence
> > > > or if the hyponichium is drying out. One lady is going to the
> > > > dermatologist, so I gave her the empty packaging for Shellac and told
> > > > her to ask the Dr. about it and to also ask him if she shouldn't be
> > > > soaking them off in acetone every other week. We'll see what happens
> > > > at her next visit.
>
> > > > Jill Wright
> > > > Bowling Green, KY.
>
> > > > On Mar 2, 8:14 pm, CAT BLUE <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > The Axxium is so hard to get off, I don't know if the foil method
> > > > > would work. If you used the cool CND wraps, you'd HAVE to charge, no?
> > > > > I got a gallon of acetone at RDA for $30! Sally's had it on sale for
> > > > > $15 so I stocked up. I have had several people who complain about how
> > > > > awful the acetone makes their fingers feel.
>
> > > > > On Mar 1, 9:47 am, Anna Z-James <[email protected]> wrote:>  I'm not
> > > >charging just yet but I am going thru acetone like crazy and was 
> > > >wondering
> > the
> > > >same thing the other day about having people exposed to the acetone so
> often
> > >and
> > > >I did have a client that did have a reaction tot he acetone her finger 
> > > >tips
> > >got
> > > >funky and ended up pealing after having blisters.  I've tried both with 
> > > >the
> > >CND
> > > >removal applications and with cotton and foil and the cotton and foil
> method
> > > >seems to be best in time but the applications seem to work better for the
> > >excess
> > > >of acetone, but the foil and cotton method is cheaper being that I can 
> > > >get
> a
> > >bag
> > > >of cotton and a roll of foil for $2 at the 99 cent store and the
> >applications
> > > >are $4 a bag...HUM what's a girl to do?
>
> > > > > > Anna
> > > > > > Creations by Anna Z-Jameswww.annazjames.com-----OriginalMessage-----
> > > > > > From: CAT BLUE <[email protected]>
> > > > > > To: NailTech <[email protected]>
> > > > > > Sent: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 6:34 am
> > > > > > Subject: NailTech:: Re: Shellac color combos idea photos
>
> > > > > > Are you guys really soaking off EVERY visit? Are you charging for 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > soak off? The cost of Acetone has really gone up and I just wondered
> > > > > > if people are incorporating it into the cost of the service? What 
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > you guys charging for the service? soak off? I'm using Axxium and 
> > > > > > only
> > > > > > soaking off every few or several visits and charging for it. I have
> > > > > > soaked off Shellac and it comes of MUCH easier, but is it really 
> > > > > > okay
> > > > > > to soak in acetone so often? Thanks!
> > > > > > Cat
>
> > > > > > On Mar 1, 6:31 am, "Holly L. Schippers" <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > New combo ideas to get you started
>
> > > > > > >http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=283073&id=307317462263
>
> > > > > > > Holly L. Schippers
> > > > > > > CND Education Ambassador
> > > > > > > [email protected] c
>
> > > > > > > Visit cnd.com for the latest in products, education and nail
> fashion!
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