I knew it would cost us money but I considered it an investment in marketing. I 
just didn't realize how huge an "investment" it would be. Sooooooo not worth 
it. 

Michelle Phoenix, Owner/Elite Nail Technician
Wet Paint Nail Spa
Nails, Skin & Hair
www.wetpaintnailspa.com

On Jan 18, 2012, at 7:15 AM, Alisha Chmiel <[email protected]> wrote:

> Once the Groupon or Living Social deal expires, you only have to honor the 
> AMOUNT the coupon was for. You treat it like a gift card and go back to 
> charging full price for your services. I ran both of these and that was how 
> the fine print read. And yes, it COST me money once I had to pay out 
> commission. Groupon and Living Social cause a NEGATIVE PROFIT for the 
> Merchant.
>  
> DON'T DO IT!!!!!
>  
> Alisha Chmiel
> Arti Beauty Spa
> Kettering, OH
> 
> --- On Wed, 1/18/12, Anna Z-James <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> From: Anna Z-James <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: NailTech:: Groupon - ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY DO NOT DO IT
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Wednesday, January 18, 2012, 12:24 AM
> 
> One of the girls at my salon received an email just recently from Living 
> Social expressing to her that she was to honor the certificates up to 5 
> years.  This is some straight up BS because they DO NOT express this to 
> ANYONE up front when they sales pitch you to sign up.....This is a SCAM if 
> you ask me....it's bad enough that when you sign up to run this special you 
> have already reduced the value of your service in half and then have to share 
> any profits with the company which is ANOTHER half....Having US (Small 
> business owners) to reduce our value and services.
> 
> I have been receiving calls from a girl from Groupon wanting me to run daily 
> specials with them and I expressed to her that I think I've learned that my 
> value is worth so much more then dealing with chair hopping customers that 
> don't know the value of a REAL service by not even tipping or returning as a 
> client because all they do is purchase these coupons on a regular just to get 
> the next deal! 
> 
> There has to be a loop whole in this system where we as the retailers were 
> misguided and conned to sign up in hopes that we will get new business 
> walking through our doors?
> 
> 
> Anna
> Creations by Anna Z-James 
> www.annazjames.com
> 702-927-8831
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michelle Phoenix <[email protected]>
> To: nailtech <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tue, Jan 17, 2012 8:44 pm
> Subject: Re: NailTech:: Groupon - ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY DO NOT DO IT
> 
> Sadly no, gotta honor the whole thing.  I'm going to make some calls tomorrow 
> just to be sure.  *le sigh*
> 
> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:56 PM, shawn wilson <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> As far as the 5 yrs to honor the certificate, you only have to honor the face 
> value, the client will have to pay the balance. That is how the law reads.
> Shawn
> On Jan 17, 2012 9:51 PM, "Michelle Phoenix" <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> Let me share my experience with you guys.  First off, there are only ever 2 
> or 3 techs on per day in my spa.  Second of all, I have spent just about my 
> entire career saying no to doing coupons of any sort and I should have stuck 
> to my guns.
>  
> Having spent a ton of money on a newer, larger spa, I wanted to get clients 
> in for our new services.  Groupon had been courting me for months so I 
> finally decided to talk to them.  I told them I wanted to do something to 
> promote my skincare services.  They said no.  We are known for our nail care 
> and that's what they wanted to sell.  They said we could upsell the clients 
> on the skin care when they got there. That hasn't worked out b/c they just 
> buy Groupons for discounted skin care at some othe spa who fell for this 
> crap.  I only wanted to sell a few hundred, because we're small.  They said 
> no, you have to sell 2,000.  Long story short, I was so anxious about getting 
> new clients in to the spa I agreed to 1,000 and they said we'd never sell 
> out.  We sold out in under 24 hours.
>  
> Well now, even though the "expiration date" is coming up, I can not, by 
> Massachussets law, turn people away after February 2nd. I have to continue to 
> accept them until they're all used or 5 years pass.  Whichever comes first. I 
> could just scream!!!  I have no one to blame but myself.
>  
> On top of it all, the spa gets $21 for each $70 of service and I still have 
> to pay my girls their commission on the $70 fee.  In other words, I take in 
> $21 from the Groupon but pay out $38.50.  It's costing me $17,500!!!  GAH!!!
>  
> I'm sending this email from my personal address and ommitting my signature 
> b/c if clients Google the spa, I don't want them to find this email.  Just 
> because I've screwed myself doesn't mean I have to make them feel bad about 
> getting a bargain.
> M-
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