Is the amount of uv in tanning beds enough to cause overcuring? [email protected] wrote:
>Erick, >So is the story we heard about the sun continuing to cure the gel correct? >Lynnette > >Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide > >----- Reply message ----- >From: "Erick Westcott" <[email protected]> >Date: Tue, Jan 24, 2012 2:43 pm >Subject: NailTech:: Overcuring gel questions >To: <[email protected]> > >Well, It isn't really sticky layer either, but sticky layer is a quick easy >way to explain it. Why complicate things, when sticky layer says exactly >what it is. > > > >If you really want to be correct, dispersion layer would indicate that >something was being dispersed or being distributed. I imagine that you >could make the stretch to say that the sticky layer was covering the entire >nail therefore it was dispersed over the entire nail. But to disperse would >assume that something or someone needed to disperse it in the first place. >You do disperse the product over the nail, but the curing process does not >disperse the sticky layer, it does not put it there. It was there from the >beginning. > > > >If anything the correct term would be inhibition layer. The oxygen >molecules in the air inhibit the very top layer of gel from curing. > > > >Given enough time and exposure to UV, that sticky layer starts to cure, then >you get a gummy really sticky layer that when wiped looks dull. > > > >Given even more time and exposure to UV, some gel will yellow and become >brittle, like when you kick a piece of plastic that has been out in the sun >for years and it just falls apart. But nails becoming brittle due to over >exposure of UV is rare, it takes a lot of photo aging to make that happen. > > > >I don't think that was too personally bias. > > > >I think the "change" came about because the chemists were in the closet so >to speak. So there were people just running around making things up like, >"you can't over cure gel", "Polycrylic", "dispersion layer", "acrylics will >be gone in 10 years", "gel cures cancer and tastes like strawberries". But >now that some have come out, there is a constant battle between what was >said and what is correct. Even today there are people that say things that >simply aren't correct, or they blow things so out of proportion that it is >just silly. Seven things you MUST do in the next 10 minutes or you will die >a horrible death in the coming zombie apocalypse. More after the break. > > > >And that is why I stick to sticky layer. > > > >Erick Westcott, CEO > >Gelousy Gel Nail Systems > >1745 W Deer Valley RD STE 124 > >Phoenix AZ 85027 > >602-493-9043 > >Fax: 602-493-2544 > >[email protected] > >www.gelousy.com > > > > > > > >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >Of Manicures That Last >Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:48 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: NailTech:: Overcuring gel questions > > > >Thank you Erick, apparently you have earned the title Chem-Geek for a good >reason ! >I know I use the term dispersion layer ALL the time. I will absolutely stop >that and use the correct Sticky Reside term! > >Lorraine > > >At 09:15 PM 1/18/2012, you wrote: > > > >Oh I forgot... How over curing happens. > >The sticky residue (and it is NOT called a dispersion layer) starts to cure >causing dullness when the nail is wiped. With no residue gels, over curing >causes brittleness. > >-Erick >Gelousy Chemist and general bad ass. > >-------- Original Message -------- > >Subject: NailTech:: Overcuring gel questions > >From: Maggie in Visalia <[email protected]> > >Date: Wed, January 18, 2012 6:50 pm > >To: 1Nail Tech list < [email protected] ><mailto:[email protected]> > > >Ok, I need a chem-geek. > > > >I'm sure it comes as no surprise to anyone who's known me (or known of me) >for any length of time, but I'm skeptical of pretty much any information >that comes down the pike these days on the subject of product chemistry. > > > >A. I have to take into consideration that the experts on the subject also >all represent companies and products that they depend on for their >livelihood, not to mention are personall invested in-- I'm sure Doug Schoon >thinks of Shellac as his personal baby, for example. So I can't think of any >source of info on these matters that doesn't come with personal bias. > > > >B. Everything they used to tell us has changed in the last 20 years that >I've been listening! Seriously, I remember being told that you could NOT >overcure gel! That once all the polymer chains were formed, they were done. >So continued exposure to UV light wasn't going to do anything else. > > > >It's not that I can't understand that technology changes. That maybe the gel >technology that's primarily used in the industry today isn't the same as it >used to be. I'm totally cool with that-- I just want someone to acknowledge >that it changed. When did anyone say, "Well, it used to be like this, see? >But now we use this instead and so we have these issues now...?" > > > >Ok. So anyway.... The current word is that gel CAN be over-cured. If anyone >would care to explain to me HOW over-curing takes place, I am ALL ABOUT >learning! > > > >Just a day or two ago, I came across a post from Manicures That Last about >over-curing and the example was given that you don't really need to worry >about over-curing until you get into 5 minute+ range. > > > >Ummmmm..... so, what happens if a nail chips? or breaks? or peels off? > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >"NailTech" group. >To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >[email protected]. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. 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