On Sat, 23 Aug 2025, David Conrad via NANOG wrote:
The problem is the assumed binding of <IP address, geographic address>
in the “northern hemisphere” or wherever. This has never been
guaranteed, has always been questionable, and, historically, was
actively discouraged, at least by the RIRs (“the Internet does not use
geopolitical boundaries for address allocation”, handwaving away the RIR
geographical monopolies).
Huh? It wasn't that many years ago, ARIN considered "out of region"
utilized IP space to not qualify as "utilized" for purposes of qualifying
for additional allocations by showing your existing allocations were
sufficiently utilized.
Though that issue is relatively moot at this point, that policy did
eventually change.
The problem, as I think you pointed out earlier, is that various
parties, for good or ill, need there to be an <IP,geo> binding, even if
it doesn’t really exist, so using what information they have, they make
it up as they go along. Sometimes (usually) it works. Sometimes, it
doesn’t. The crux is that, when it doesn’t, the mechanisms to fix the
binding, such as they are, sucks
This varies quite a bit from one IP Geo provider to the next. Some are
pretty good (have web pages where you can do test queries against their
data, will accept your geofeed data if you tell them where to get it,
etc.). Others (like Digital Element) seem to be entirely opaque and
obtuse.
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