I need a business reason to make the business do IPv6. I do not need a technical reason. This thread has shown there is no business use case for global IPv6.
I also want to throw this out there: Metronet residential (last I heard 7th largest fiber provider in the US, this was well before the Tmobile acquisition) doesn't even give out public IPs. They do IPv4 only CGNAT. You can get a /32 static at $15/mo (in some areas). On Mon, Dec 1, 2025 at 10:51 AM Mu <[email protected]> wrote: > the reason "you still need v4 for a working Internet" is because people > like you keep saying crap like "v6 is a joke". > thanks for that! > > On Monday, December 1st, 2025 at 10:08 AM, Josh Luthman via NANOG < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Aaron, > > > > As a small operator I would ask why you need a /29 the first place. > Second > > why don't you just get your own ASN? > > > > Are you willing to pay more to support v6? Or do you think the ISP should > > add that service for free? > > > > Imo v6 is a joke because you still need v4 for a working Internet. I > > understand there are benefits but this is 2025 and you can't get by > without > > v4. > > > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2025, 10:03 AM Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I wish they were dropping in my area. > > > I called my backwoods ISP last week (they are a monopoly with ~4,000 > fiber > > > customers) to go from a single static at my office to a /29 and they > said > > > "It's $300/mo". > > > I asked why it was so high and they said "My boss doesn't like > configuring > > > them, so he set the price really high". > > > Then I asked when IPv6 would be available and got the same answer I got > > > back in 2019: "My boss said he was thinking about looking into it next > > > year". > > > > > > -A > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2025 at 6:12 PM Tom Mitchell via NANOG < > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > v4 addresses have been dropping rapidly. They were as high as $65 > last > > > > year. Now, there are offers for $11. Average market price now is in > the > > > > mid-$20's. All the NA ISPs have been selling much of their inventory. > > > > Why > > > > not. > > > > > > > > - Tom > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2025 at 11:23 AM Mike Hammett via NANOG < > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > What are you using for guides for IPv4 pricing? There are a bunch > of > > > > > undated blogs, which don't mean much if there's no date. > > > > > > > > > > Hilco's blog says somewhere around $27 for a /22 to /24: > > > > > https://www.ipv4.global/reports/october-2025/ > > > > > but then fast forward a month on their auction page and it's down > to > > > > > $22: > > > > > https://auctions.ipv4.global/prior-sales > > > > > > > > > > These guys stopped updating in June: > > > > > https://ipv4market.eu/ipv4-market-average-sale-prices-2025/ > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > > > > Mike Hammett > > > > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > > > > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > > > > > Midwest-IX > > > > > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > NANOG mailing list > > > > > > > https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/UWJDG6X3FH73ELJRSEX4O4BIK7CS7EAQ/ > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > NANOG mailing list > > > > > > > https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/2DP5TTAHK4CN2HXHNLLYN225JNLQYJIO/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > NANOG mailing list > > > > > > > https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/5D2RDOWMRXX4634VKZO33X4YAR7RYMDK/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NANOG mailing list > > > https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/XWAJ5B7ZIBEPUGWIUKS42N3AM76AMWRV/ > _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/3HDQ4IOL7WVYZUUSRW2SXPKGP5JXZJHS/
