I guess I wasn’t as detailed as should be, multi factor authentication should 
hopefully have 1 standard which will work for everything.  So we have an app on 
our phone to authenticate after a username/password which give a 6 digit key, 
or we use a hardware based key to sign a OTP.  Really either doesn’t matter, 
but trying to get endu sers to switch between each for every login is going to 
hamper acceptance in the large scale.

MailOps, would probably the best example, as the spam is generated simply from 
usually not having anything because it’s just too difficult to implement.

Sincerely,

Eric Tykwinski
TrueNet, Inc.
P: 610-429-8300

> On Mar 23, 2020, at 6:02 PM, Tom Beecher <beec...@beecher.cc> wrote:
> 
> I see no possible future outcome in which "one simple authentication 
> mechanism" could ever be remotely close to reasonably secure. 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 5:57 PM Eric Tykwinski <eric-l...@truenet.com 
> <mailto:eric-l...@truenet.com>> wrote:
> I think that’s the major sticky point, I would hope we could all agree on one 
> thing, but that also leaves one entry point of failure.  Hopefully we can all 
> agree that FIDO2, OAUTH2, et al, with be a winner in the long run so 
> everything can just use one simple authentication mechanism.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Eric Tykwinski
> TrueNet, Inc.
> P: 610-429-8300
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Mark Tinka <mark.ti...@seacom.mu 
>> <mailto:mark.ti...@seacom.mu>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 23/Mar/20 22:39, Keith Medcalf wrote:
>> 
>>> Hardware tokens are nothing more than dedicated hardware TOTP devices with 
>>> perhaps a few additional parameters programmed at manufacturing time.  
>>> Example, RSAID keyfobs are nothing more than TOTP generators with 
>>> manufacturer programmed secrets and dedicated clock and display hardware 
>>> with no external interface which permits access to the secret.
>> 
>> For some of my banks, OTP tokens are issued via their device apps. I
>> used to have physical key fobs for that; those are now gone.
>> 
>> Admittedly, not all of my banks have made the transition. On the other
>> hand, many of the banks have moved on to support Face ID and QR code
>> verification via device apps.
>> 
>> Not specific to VPN access management, but in the same vein.
>> 
>> Mark.
> 

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