Well sure, and I would like to think (probably mistakenly) that just no one 
important enough (to the money people) made the money people that these other 
things are *REQUIRED* to make the deal work. 

Obviously, people lower on the ladder say it all of the time, but the important 
enough money people probably don't consider those people important enough to 
listen to. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Mark Tinka" <mark@tinka.africa> 
To: nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 10:28:26 AM 
Subject: Re: Zayo woes 




On 9/19/23 16:48, Mike Hammett wrote: 



As someone that has been planning to be in the acquiring seat for a while (but 
yet to do one), I've consistently passed to the money people that there's the 
purchase price and then there's the % on top of that for equipment, 
contractors, etc. to integrate, improve, optimize future cashflow, etc. those 
acquisitions with the rest of what we have. 



I blame this on the success of how well we have built the Internet with 
whatever box and tool we have, as network engineers. 

The money people assume that all routers are the same, all vendors are the 
same, all software is the same, and all features are easily deployable. And 
that all that is possible if you can simply do a better job finding the 
cheapest box compared to your competition. 

In general, I don't fancy nuance when designing for the majority. But with 
acquisition and integration, nuance is critical, and nuance quickly shows that 
the acquisition was either underestimated, or not worth doing at all. 

Mark. 


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