It's easily fixed by having a mixer at the same time for the other half of the gathering population thus showing all the population gathering matters equally.
On 29 March 2024 2:50:19 pm ACDT, Ren Provo <ren.pr...@gmail.com> wrote: >I beg to differ here and second Ilissa’s comments. I miss WiT. Lunch >during the meeting worked. Giving up more of the weekend to travel does >not show half the population gathering matters. > > >On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 15:16 Morris, Tina via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> >wrote: > >> Illissa, >> The mixer is at 5pm Sunday, this allows people to network and prepare for >> the week. Sunday also has a hackathon, registration, and often a welcome >> social. NANOG has a very compressed schedule and another time would >> actually mean that the women participating would have to pick between this >> event and another event or talk that may be critical to their job >> function, which is also unfair. >> >> We are advertising this mixer to make sure all are aware and can attend, >> and the mixers will be on the schedule at the same approximate time at >> each meeting going forward. >> >> I hope we will see you there. >> >> Tina Morris >> >> >> On Mar 28, 2024, at 14:12, Thomas Scott <mr.thomas.sc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> *CAUTION*: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not >> click links or open attachments unless you can confirm the sender and know >> the content is safe. >> >> > While the times are changing, women continue to remain primary >> caregivers for families and this will require them to desert their families >> a day early. I find it offensive personally and feel like you may have >> missed the mark. >> >> The hackathon has for (as far as I’ve known about it) been on Sunday. I >> don’t work on Sundays - it’s a day for my family (unless the almighty pager >> goes off), so I’ve never gone - even though it’s one of the parts of NANOG >> I’d enjoy, and would benefit from the most. >> >> There are tradeoffs for everything - perhaps the idea was to keep the >> women’s mixer separate from the other evening events, so that those who >> wish to participate, can do all of the evening events, and not have to give >> up anything, at the cost of the extra day. That being said, I agree, moving >> more to Sunday is not an acceptable answer to me. >> >> Best Regards, >> -Thomas Scott >> >> On Mar 28, 2024 at 1:45:07 PM, Ilissa Miller <ili...@imillerpr.com> wrote: >> >>> For those that know me, I rarely provide constructive input about NANOG >>> matters due to my past affiliation, however, I just saw that NANOG >>> announced the Women mixer on Sunday before NANOG 91 and am outraged for all >>> of the young professional women >>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerStart >>> This Message Is From an Untrusted Sender >>> You have not previously corresponded with this sender. >>> >>> ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd >>> >> For those that know me, I rarely provide constructive input about NANOG >>> matters due to my past affiliation, however, I just saw that NANOG >>> announced the Women mixer on Sunday before NANOG 91 and am outraged for all >>> of the young professional women who would like to participate in NANOG. >>> While the times are changing, women continue to remain primary caregivers >>> for families and this will require them to desert their families a day >>> early. I find it offensive personally and feel like you may have missed >>> the mark. >>> >>> The amount of times I hear people complain about having to leave their >>> families is one of the reasons this industry has a problem keeping young >>> people - especially women. >>> >>> Does anyone else feel the same? >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Ilissa Miller* >>> *CEO, iMiller Public Relations >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.imillerpr.com__;!!I6uDfDBXfA!181DBJ-FtVXbxl2Cf3GD05kg0qsfnD4gdtQI9hJ64xq3Q6B0MHGT1XNwKAr9Vv-qdyTXEvwN7JrbIVyu$>* >>> >>> >>> >>>