So, DPI, duplication, injection into frames. If each Hauwei knows of each other....I supose you could create a Hauwei backbone and slowly pick and pull peices of what you want out of the flow. But how realistic is that really...
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore <[email protected]>wrote: > On Jun 13, 2013, at 12:28 , "Avi Freedman" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I disagree. > > > > There have already been lab demos of sfps that could inject frames and > APTs are pretty advanced, sinister, and can be hard to detect now. > > > > I'm not suggesting Huawei is or isn't enabling badness globally but I > think it would be technically feasible. > > I am assuming a not-Hauwei-only network. > > The idea that a router could send things through other routers without > someone who is looking for it noticing is ludicrous. > > Of course, most people aren't paying attention, a few extra frames > wouldn't be noticed most likely. But if you are worried about it, you > should be looking. > > Also, I find it difficult to believe Hauwei has the ability to do DPI or > something inside their box and still route at reasonable speeds is a bit > silly. Perhaps they only duplicate packets based on source/dest IP address > or something that is magically messaged from the mother ship, but I am > dubious. > > It should be trivial to prove to yourself the box is, or is not, doing > something evil if you actually try. > > -- > TTFN, > patrick > > > > ------Original Message------ > > From: Patrick W. Gilmore > > To: NANOG list > > Subject: Re: huawei > > Sent: Jun 13, 2013 12:22 PM > > > > On Jun 13, 2013, at 12:18 , Nick Khamis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> A local clec here in Canada just teamed up with this company to > >> provide cell service to the north: > >> > >> > http://cwta.ca/blog/2012/09/24/ice-wireless-iristel-and-huawei-partner-for-3g-wireless-network-in-northern-canada/ > >> > >> Scary.... > > > > Why? > > > > Do you think Huawei has a magic ability to transmit data without you > noticing? > > > > If you don't want to use Hauwei because they stole code or did other > nasty things, I'm right there with you. If you believe a router can somehow > magically duplicate info and transport it back to China (ignoring CT/CU's > inability to have congestion free links), I think you are confused. > > > > -- > > TTFN, > > patrick > > > > > > > > > -- Phil Fagan Denver, CO 970-480-7618
