On Dec 3, 2004, at 12:02 AM, martyn adams wrote:

> I believe most F27 sailors believe the baby stay is not an asset after
> the 2nd spreader modification and I agree except for one condition.
>
> We had the need to set a second reef and found that the mast inverts
> when the main sheet is hauled.  I believe the baby stay will help
> prevent this.  The top of the main is well below the attatchment of
> the jib stay and will deflect the mast aft.   The first indication was
> the lower (inner) shrouds were dead slack (as in flop, flop) and the
> intermediate ones were loose.
>
> I went foreward and watched the mast flex into a sine wave which kind
> of told me to do something.   I grabbed the topping lift and asked
> Linda to ease the main.  I shortened the topping lift which
> transferred some of the load to the top of the mast.  I'm not so quick
> to double reef and if needed will jury rig a backstay with a spare
> haliard.

As someone who is about to make the second spreader conversion, and as
one that does get to the second reef often enough, I'm very interested
in this thread. I'm expecting to lose the baby stay, though if mast
inversion is an issue I can rig a removable and tension-able
substitute. My understanding of how to tension the mast once I rig the
second spreader is that significant prebend will be placed by the new
diamond wires and this prebend will be right in the area where the head
of the mainsail will be when reefed, so I'm wondering if Martyn's
experience is the result of not carrying much prebend in his mast.

Martyn, what tension are you carrying in your diamond wires, measured
by Loos gauge or by measuring the static bend in your mast when down?

Have others had this inversion experience when deeply reefed?

I'm adding the second spreader precisely to avoid inversion and
noodling on my older Forespar mast, partly because I have spectra
capshrouds and so put up with a little more stretch in that part of the
rig.

Jesse Deupree
F-27 ION
Portland Maine


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