Ron,

I have almost never had a customer NOT willing to take
the investment in time recommended by XP to create
Customer Acceptance test, etc...

But when I do consulting for a large corporation, even
at the department level, you wouldn't believe how
negative they look at anything other then a meeting
when something goes off-track. 

Is that your experience? Has anyone else had similar
experiences? Should I not take a project unless I get
the requirements XP considers vital to a successful
project? 

Will I go broke if I do? Then again, I am already
broke so skip the last question :-)

Stede

--- Ron Jeffries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> On Friday, December 17, 2004, at 10:49:20 AM, Steve
> Bate wrote:
> 
> > In an XP context, do you think it's useful to know
> who is a
> > customer and who is a developer (and to understand
> the implications
> > of each category/role even when realized by the
> same person)?
> 
> Beck said a long time ago that he felt that the
> existence of two
> roles, customer and programmer, in XP was a flaw,
> but that he
> couldn't see how to get rid of it. I tend to agree.
> 
> In a smoothly-running team, the roles blur to an
> amazing degree, and
> in that blurring lies power.
> 
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