On Wednesday, December 29, 2004, at 9:24:58 AM, Mattias Vannerg�rd wrote:

>> The User Story doesn't matter unless you need a historical record.
>> What does matter is the Executable Acceptance Tests, which are
>> what the user story becomes. Ron frequently puts this process as
>> Card, Conversation, Confirmation.
 
> Great!
> And the confirmation should be Re-executable. Like regressiontesting?
> I'm still intrested in where the Conversation is stored (does
> it always fit on the story card?)
> Don't you technically elaborate on the Conversation-part? (My
> idea was expanding the story card into a use
> case, see below)

The point of the Conversation is to build understanding between the
customer and the developer, right before the developer begins to
produce the feature. The point of the Confirmation is to nail down
the important details: it is the document. See:

http://www.xprogramming.com/xpmag/EXPCardConversationConfirmation.htm

> I get a feeling that it doesn't really matter which way you go
> (only that your mileage may vary...), as long as you are
> comfortable with the route.

> Different people on this list do it differently, and all feel
> comfotable, and agile...

> I think it's most important to know that there are many good
> approach to select from, when your setting out on the road.

It /is/ important to know that there are many good approaches.
However, not all routes are the same, and comfort is not the only
measure of what we should do, especially in an area we do not know.
We might think we have a really good road, not realizing that there
is an expressway paralleling our course, just a few miles off to
the left. Thus the need for experimentation, and for an experienced
guide.

Regards,

Ron Jeffries
www.XProgramming.com
My advice is to do it by the book, get good at the practices, then do as
you will. Many people want to skip to step three. How do they know?


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