Bman, here's a situation that may arise, and I ask for your insight- 1. You get your boat island thing together. You're out in international waters, all of you have done away with your national citizenships. A couple of guys that own one of the boats near the center of the "island" decide to get sick and start molesting little kids. What are you gonna do? Me: I'd say cap'em both, keep whatever it is they have that you can use and toss the rest overboard with their bodies.
2. You get a large ship instead, and do the no government gig there. Same crap happens- kiddie mo bangs a few boys. Whatcha gonna do? Me: I'm a firm supporter of keel hauling. In either of these two cases you will need to have some form of government to manage what happens. And as I have seen first hand, kids can and will say things that aren't true. A man I had a great deal of respect for (he was an assistant scoutmaster for my BSA troop when I was a kid) was convicted of molesting his daughters. He lost everything. Spent several years in prison, and couldn't hold a job. Last I knew he was homeless. Funny thing is that only one of the girls said that he did that, and she recanted a few years later. She was angry at him over something menial. Well, they apologized and exonerated him for it. But he still did prison, still lost everything, and still had a public reputation of being a kiddie mo. I have no idea where he's at now, and I wish I did. So what if your "island" gig had such a problem? Either way you have to do something about it. And if you do what is right, you have become a governing authority. If you do what is wrong, you have become what you left this country over. Carl zygodactyl01 wrote: > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As long as people are out of control and not living the design as > Nature > > intended, there will be government. a police force for deranged, > messed > > up human organisms. By breaking Natural Law we created external > > law/force. > > I don't advocate the need for government either, BUT I know that > until > > we return to our diet/lifestyle we were designed to eat/live, people > > cannot think, act in a way that dosen't nessesitate rules, laws, and > > policing, i.e. government. > > Frankly I think you're barking up the wrong tree, government isn't > the > > problem, human beings and their lifestyles are the problem. > > Oncw we get our shit together, collectively, government will > disappear > > Incorrect, IMO :-)! > Natural law is natural because mankind worldwide understands it! > Governments, as they exist worldwide today, violate mans natural laws > by stealing from him using force (of course)! > We as a society are off track because we wish to believe that what > is unnatural to mankind can work (forceful government), and what is > natural to mankind (natural rights and laws) can't work! > If a bully attacks you as a friend of mine, I can help you! What the > hell can we do about the government bully? Putting a biased man over > our biased selves solves nothing! > I do not oppose voluntary organization. I do oppose forceful > slavery! > Like it or not; we are slaves here! Sure you get to own and maintain > at your own expence your slave shack; but the government knows right > where to find you if you don't allow yourself to be robbed by them! > If you refuse to be robbed by them, they will sell your slave shack > that you thought you owned! If you resist, they with either put you > in a cage or shoot you dead! > Do you own your vehicle? If so, why do you need permission from > other equally created fallen men to drive it? Their excuse about > keeping bad drivers off of the road doesn't fly, does it? > The _only_ reason that our government doesn't pass the plate to us > for donations is because some men wish to force us into doing and > paying for things against our will; which violates mans natural laws! > I KNOW that I am on track here! From our childhood on, we desire > freedom and independance naturally. We have become so used to being > ruled that we no longer understand that forceful governance violates > our natural selves. > I'm going to be boondocking and homesteading on Libertarian Island! > Yes, something bad could happen to me! I'm taking my chances because > I want to live in a society that values natural law! To force any of > you to join me would violate my sense of natural rights, therefore I > would never do such a thing! > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/libertarianisland/> > Bman > > > > > Yahoo! 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