Well, that's neat. I'll have to try loading the arduino firmware onto
one of the 328's that are in my drawer and give it a shot. Thanks for
the education.
As for the IDE bloat.. There are definitely two schools of thought on
this, with proponents on both sides of the fence. Sounds like you're of
the "programming with a magnetic needle and a steady hand" school of
thought. That's fine. I don't mind to use vi or edlin or whatever if I
have to, but by choice I will definitely use Visual Studio or AVR Studio. :)
.. and don't even compare AVR Studio to Eclipse. The last project at
work was an ARM on the Eclipse IDE, and they don't even belong in the
same sentence. Eclipse is just _BAD_. Has nothing to do with bloat, it's
just _BAD_.
-Adam
On 7/18/2011 9:12 AM, Sean Voisen wrote:
Eh, not really. You do need a serial port interface, but it certainly
doesn't have to be part of your schematic. Sparkfun sells FTDI
interface "dongles" that you can use. They're about $15. I just use a
6-pin header connected to the standard UART pins with a 0.1uF
capacitor between DTR and RESET. No other hardware is required for
bare-bones use other than a power supply and a reset button (with
pull-up) if you want it.
<snip>
Like many IDEs, it's bloated. The new AVRStudio runs on a Visual
Studio shell, which is a beast to download and install, as well as a
memory hog. I thought Eclipse was bad, but this may be worse. The
Arduino IDE is admittedly poor. But it's brutal simplicity helps it to
get out of the way for beginners. Personally, I just use Vim with
AVRDude, though I'm starting to use AVRStudio for new projects.
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