On Jul 18, 7:30 pm, Joe Croft <[email protected]> wrote:
> Are all of the young bucks mystified by the use of  the command line? Granted,
> I have learned to debug code w/o a debugger, but that is about all an IDE buys
> you, the debugger.
>
> I'm stuck using Visual Studio at work and it's a royal pain! Slow to load,
> slow to build, slow to shutdown.The editor sucks too!!! Not that Vim is
> something I use for regular programming. Give me my Graphical editor with it's
> "Brief " like emulation! Of course, only a fool tries to work on a unix system
> without knowing the basics of vi, just because!

Get over it. VS is not bad. I've spent many many (far too many) years
designing & working on Unix drivers, OpenVMS internals, custom bit-
slice processor design, Windows, *humungous* systems (70,000
simultaneous users), tiny embedded systems, microwave landing systems
for jet fighters,you mention it.

All systems have their pluses and minuses - they are not religious
icons - they are tools - a means to an end, no more than that.

I've used VS extensively since its first release, I've hacked vim, vi,
sed, TPU, EDT, brief, teco, emacs and probably a 100 other editors &
environments since the mid-70s. Horses for courses - on Windows, VS is
not bad at all, on Unix, I find vi usable and fine, no more than that.
Trying to compare VS (which is a framework) with vi (which is a
completely different beast) is pointless. You don't like the editor
for a particular file type in VS, then change it (do it from the File-
>Open->File menu).

Unix systems, when not properly set up, can be a piece of excrement,
as can Windows systems.

Try to remember that Unix is nothing new - the core has been around in
pretty much its current form since the mid 70's - vi was written about
then. Oddly, the rest of the world has moved on, maybe not in a way to
everyone's tastes, but its most certainly moved on. You want to stick
in the dark ages. Do so.

Nick

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