Are all of the young bucks mystified by the use of the command line? Granted, I have learned to debug code w/o a debugger, but that is about all an IDE buys you, the debugger.
I'm stuck using Visual Studio at work and it's a royal pain! Slow to load, slow to build, slow to shutdown.The editor sucks too!!! Not that Vim is something I use for regular programming. Give me my Graphical editor with it's "Brief " like emulation! Of course, only a fool tries to work on a unix system without knowing the basics of vi, just because! -joe On Monday 18 July 2011 13:17:33 Adam Jacobs wrote: > Well, that's neat. I'll have to try loading the arduino firmware onto > one of the 328's that are in my drawer and give it a shot. Thanks for > the education. > > As for the IDE bloat.. There are definitely two schools of thought on > this, with proponents on both sides of the fence. Sounds like you're of > the "programming with a magnetic needle and a steady hand" school of > thought. That's fine. I don't mind to use vi or edlin or whatever if I > have to, but by choice I will definitely use Visual Studio or AVR Studio. > :) .. and don't even compare AVR Studio to Eclipse. The last project at > work was an ARM on the Eclipse IDE, and they don't even belong in the same > sentence. Eclipse is just _BAD_. Has nothing to do with bloat, it's just > _BAD_. > > -Adam > > On 7/18/2011 9:12 AM, Sean Voisen wrote: > > Eh, not really. You do need a serial port interface, but it certainly > > doesn't have to be part of your schematic. Sparkfun sells FTDI > > interface "dongles" that you can use. They're about $15. I just use a > > 6-pin header connected to the standard UART pins with a 0.1uF > > capacitor between DTR and RESET. No other hardware is required for > > bare-bones use other than a power supply and a reset button (with > > pull-up) if you want it. > > > > <snip> > > Like many IDEs, it's bloated. The new AVRStudio runs on a Visual > > Studio shell, which is a beast to download and install, as well as a > > memory hog. I thought Eclipse was bad, but this may be worse. The > > Arduino IDE is admittedly poor. But it's brutal simplicity helps it to > > get out of the way for beginners. Personally, I just use Vim with > > AVRDude, though I'm starting to use AVRStudio for new projects. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
