Yes Lucky I agree. [And I have several cats].
Years ago I supported this Weisling when I thought 'down on his luck', but 
subsequent events have shown me to be wrong in that.
I found the original/initial recent fishing expedition re the FLW clock in bad 
taste in this venue.
This Weisling is trying to Weisle its way back and I vote NO !

Sometimes you just gotta let go.

John Kaesehagen
Australia.
[I applied the Christmas Spirit and considerably toned-down my thoughts !]
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lucky 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 5:34 AM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Off topic Circuit for automatic cat door.


  Ermm and you find the mutilation of an animal ok?
  You find terrorising another animal ok?
  You think the extermination of a group by unnatural means (a 'domestic' cat 
is not natural) is ok?
  "A fellow cat lover told me that once they trimmed off their cat's whiskers 
and the can would be ware of going from room to room in the house especially if 
the door was partly closed leaving a narrow gap." this is what 'cat lovers' do??

  I'm sorry but I have got to say this, personally I do not particularly like 
cats (yet they always seem to find me as a 'friend'. I will always pet them if 
they desire etc) but find this post so offensive. It borders, no IS cruelty to 
trim a cats whiskers, it is cruel to allow, worse encourage your domesticated 
cat to 'exterminate' a complete colony of a different species!
  I have not spoken on this thread before becuase of my bias of not being a 
'cat lover' but gotta say just close your windows peoples, stop worrying 
whether they can get in or out that's what DOORS are for! If you can't mange 
that don't have a cat period!
  When you start thinking/saying "My hunter cat, a GENTLE calico, would bring 
home SLAIN squirrels" you have lost the plot somewhere along the line, 
exterminating an entire colony via a 'domesticated' animal is WRONG!


  On Friday, 28 December 2012 07:07:29 UTC, Raymond Weisling wrote:
    About 1977 I had two cats and a 24/7 cat flap, but a stray was coming in 
during the night and getting food left  for the residents. I breadboarded a cat 
discriminator. It used two telephone relay coils that could detect a small 
magnet passing between them, added to the cat collars and a light bulb plus 
detector (photoresistor). If the magnetic signal was triggered and a cat 
entered, it was a resident, if the non-resident entered, not wearing the 
magnet, it sounded an alarm. I added  larger flap made from cardboard and a 
solenoid that allowed the large flap to fall and close off the smaller flap so 
no exit was possible. The no-exit flap solenoid was actually manually energized 
by touching two wires together on the end of a cable that ran to my bedroom. 
Everything was rather crude. I expected that I needed it once. 

    After I installed it I tested it with my cats with and without collars and 
it seemed to work well.

    That same night at around 02:00 the alarm sounded, I touched the wires 
together, the larger flap fell and I went out. The non-resident, hearing me 
stirring, made a mad dash for the door and hit the large flap covering the 
bidirectional flap. I tried to catch this panicking cat, and in the process the 
breadboard and the lamp, photoresistor and coils all came undone from their 
temporary mounts. It was a jumble.

    The non-resident had to be chased around the house, leaping up at closed 
windows, and eventually I caught him, and trimmed off his whiskers with a 
scissors. This is a very powerful yet harmless reminder since they depend on 
them for feeling for passages that their body can get through. (A fellow cat 
lover told me that once they trimmed off their cat's whiskers and the can would 
be ware of going from room to room in the house especially if the door was 
partly closed leaving a narrow gap.) They will be disoriented for some months 
until new whiskers grow back. A good reminder. 

    I finally opened the door and released the non-resident, who seemed to 
traverse the back yard that was a least 15 meters (or 40-some feet) long in 
three or four leaps. He never again appeared. The damaged cat discriminator was 
summarily taken apart. I remember using LM324 and LM 339 in the circuit.

    One of the cats was a great hunter, and I lived north of the San Fernando 
Valley in foothill areas (Newhall, CA) where some ground squirrels lived. My 
hunter cat, a gentle calico, would bring home slain squirrels and leave various 
parts somewhere in the house as a token of her skill, for me to find and clean 
up when I got home. This happened on a nearly daily basis one spring. 
Eventually it stopped and I found that the nearby colony has been totally 
exterminated by my calico. For a while I had wondered what it would take to 
build a prey discriminator that could block her entry only when she carried a 
victim, but even now I suspect that that is a much greater challenge.

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