>
> And "trace erosion" ???? Really? I've never heard of it, much less of 
> having it caused by airflow. Other things can degrade traces, poor 
> processing, chemicals, acidity, but airflow? MAYBE compressed air over the 
> course of decades... MAYBE.
>

It was a known issue for a few(very small quantity) Xbox's...most of those 
modded and with high air current. I placed the motherboard on a scanner and 
magnified the scanned picture and saw the eroded trace with my own eyes. 

I don't think I could stick a heat sink on that tiny black circuit square, 
or the blue one ether. Also, drawing heat from it wouldn't do much good 
without a fan to displace the drawn out heat. 

I guess at this point I will use a fan. I would rather suck the air out 
than have a fan blow on it and spread the heat around. It's not a good idea 
to let it be...it's enough heat to warm the glass of those 2 tubes at the 
base, extremely warm the plastic,  and in time I am sure the heat would 
cook something on the circuit board that would cause a single point of 
failure. 

I'm not a fan of the idea of having a Frankenstein clock, but since heat is 
one of the electronics worst enemy, it's better that I protect my 
investment. Years down the road when the tubes and kits become more hard to 
find, I would like to have my clock still working. 

-Darin



On Tuesday, October 7, 2014 8:18:59 PM UTC-5, Dman777 wrote:
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> I have a 6 digit Nixie ZM5660 clock that I got from pvelectronics that is 
> beautiful and super cool. Everything is perfect about it. However, since it 
> is multiplexed there is one spot that has a very high concentration of 
> heat. I want to place a fan underneath the clock to draw out this hot air, 
> otherwise the life of the clock will not be as long as it will without the 
> heat. 
>
> I will be taking dremel and drilling a large area underneath the case and 
> placing a fan against the case surface(outside of the case) to draw out the 
> hot air. I will then wire the 12v fan to the power supply connectors. When 
> done, I will be placing the clock case on two blocks so there will be about 
> 3 inches of area between the bottom of the clock(with the fan) and the 
> shelf it sits on. I addition, I will drill some small holes for cool air 
> intake on the sides and on top. 
>
> A few questions come to mind, please:
>
> 1) The case is only 3/4 of inch deep. Should I go for a 2 inch fan or 1 
> inch fan? Typically, a 2 inch fan will draw more heat out. But since* 
> there will only be able 3/8" of space between the fan and circuit board*, 
> I am not sure which would be more effective in drawing heat out.
>
> 2) The source of heat is in the center middle of the clock. If I place the 
> middle of the fan directly underneath the heat concentration, will that 
> heat just sit since it won't be above the blades but instead above the 
> rotor? Should the fan be off center to the actual heat concentration?
>
> 3) I would like a fan with a good ratio of not to loud but move enough 
> heat out. Not sure which would be a good cfm.
>
> 4) I don't understand why, the heat concentration is in the dead center of 
> the clock, but the source of what I think is the source of the heat...the 
> 7805 voltage regulator... is of to the side of the source of the heat 
> concentration area. 
>
> 5) Do I need to worry about trace erosion from air flow and friction? On 
> my old Xbox I had the fan running high in it and one of the traces eroded.
>
> Here are some of the fans(Would like to stick with ball bearing) I have 
> been looking at. I am big fan of Sunon:
> 1 inch:
>
> http://www.jameco.com/1/1/2967-kde1203pfb2-8-ms-dc-brushless-tubeaxial-fan-bearing-type-ball.html
>
> http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10001_10001_1708465_-1
>
> 2 inch:
>
> http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?refineValue=Ball&refineType=1&langId=-1&position=1&productId=1950446&refine=1&catalogId=10001&history=6fqaemmj%7CsubCategoryName~DC%2BBrushless%2BFans%5Ecategory~3715%5EcategoryName~cat_37%5EprodPage~15%5Epage~SEARCH%252BNAV%401bnairch%7Ccategory~371530%5EcategoryName~cat_3715%5Eposition~1%5Erefine~1%5EsubCategoryName~DC%2BBrushless%2BFans%2B%252F%2B2.00%2522%2B%252850mm%2529%5EprodPage~15%5Epage~SEARCH%252BNAV%40dnogx9g3%7CrefineValue~SUNON%5ErefineType~1%5Eposition~1%5Esub_attr_name~Manufacturer%5Erefine~1%5EprodPage~15%5Epage~SEARCH%252BNAV&sub_attr_name=Bearing&storeId=10001&ddkey=http:StoreCatalogDrillDownView
>
> Thanks,
> -Darin
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