Hi Matt, thanks for your time with such a long message, especially for overview of the crowdfunding platforms.
First, I am going to make a low-cost documentary, no special effects, just simple, calm video. I have more reasons to make it - I also expect it to spread around the tube lovers (nixie tubes, hifi tubes and so..). It will also show the amount of work and skills needed to make working tubes and justify why few pieces of glass with bent metal sheet cost $1k. It can be said that I consider it a marketing instrument. I want to cover it from my pocket, I dont think it would be right to ask people either for donation or crowdfunding - it is commercial project. I will also make a DVD with more stuff on it then online, so if someone wants to support the work, he will have possibility to buy the DVD. "It is your money, but I feel like you might be limiting your future willingness to continue making nixie tubes for others by continuing to subsidize the costs (parts + labor) using your gratefulness to the community." Well, I am not sure if I understand meaning of this sentence. But dont be afraid about this project from the financial point of view, I learned to be cost effective and I know where to set the price so that I can survive and save means for future development. About the money I already spent on it.. Well, I would be satisfied if I am allowed to do this work that I really love, I dont need them immediately back. However, I believe that this is promising project that will enable me to build a small viable company around it. About the crowdfunding in general, I know that it is great help how to sell a lots of products in short time and start the business. However, it is also very demanding to manage the campaign and manufacture this big amount of products in short time. Most of the funded projects ships with significant delay, that brings stress and I dont work much well under stress. If I want to stay motivated and creative, I cant work under stress, deadlines and so.. Best regards! Dalibor 2015-02-14 4:30 GMT+01:00 Matt <[email protected]>: > It is your money, but I feel like you might be limiting your future > willingness to continue making nixie tubes for others by continuing to > subsidize the costs (parts + labor) using your gratefulness to the > community. Granted, you may never be able to cover all of your labor > costs, so this will likely remain a hobby, but if other people are willing > to throw money towards a nixie tube documentary, then they should be able > to. Then, hopefully, you will let the community enjoy the fruits of your > hobby for a little bit longer. > > If you have the money for the video, then spending it as you see fit is > going to be a lot easier than dealing with the general public via a crowd > funding campaign. Putting up a donation page after a person watches the > video is the least time consuming way to get compensated if all you count > is the time spent on potential obligations and refunds. But asking for it > beforehand might motivate people more and take advantage of the wide > audience that some of these crowd funding sites have. In other words, > there might be an opportunity to get more people interested in this > viscerally gratifying display technology. To keep this technology alive, > it would be advantageous to keep the community size stable or growing. My > intention is not to convince you to do anything, but just to put this > information out there. > > Kickstarter would be perfect for raising funds for a documentary. It > focuses more on the arts than any other crowd funding site that I know of. > The audience there generally expects entertainment, but a howto video might > work there. The only problem with it is that it only offers all or nothing > funding with an unlimited donation total and a strict deadline for when > those donations have to be made. Indiegogo is a little better in that it > offers extensions to deadlines when it makes sense to extend the deadline. > It also offers flexible funding, which is useful if your project will go > ahead regardless of the amount donated. > > Just to contrast the use of crowd funding: For hardware with multiple > quantities, Kickstarter is the worst. Indiegogo is okay, but there are > other crowd funding sites that specialize in hardware projects that plan on > being sold after the fundraising period ends. crowdsupply.com allows > pre-orders after the fundraising period ends and can become a regular store > when items are in stock. This is great for ensuring cash flow between the > different stages of product development and keeps you from getting > distracted from running your own store front. Tindie does not deal with > funding, but it is a store for hobbyists. People sell kits, finished > products, and excess inventory of component parts. There are already a few > people selling nixie stuff there, which many of you may already be familiar > with. Although eBay does reach a wider audience. I am generally less > hesitant to order from places like eBay and Amazon than small e-commerce > sites unless I am more familiar with the company. Etsy has a good homemade > crafts audience, which seems like a good fit for selling unique homemade > nixie crafts. > > Anyway, I apologize for the lengthy e-mail. Congratulations on the > auction! I was hoping that it would exceed the prices of the Z568M tubes > given that these a fresh tubes with a warranty. Of course, the Z568M > market may be a little saturated at the moment. Maybe after you get your > video out and people start discussing it, you may do even better in your > auctions! > > > On 02/13/2015 02:41 PM, Dalibor Farný wrote: > >> Thanks guys, I am just grateful to community for helping me with the >> start and so.. I want to pay back for it, and showing what I've >> discovered might be good idea.. >> >> Regards, >> >> Dalibor >> >> 2015-02-13 18:25 GMT+01:00 jb-electronics <[email protected]>: >> >>> Well put, Nick, I completely agree! >>> >>> >>> Jens >>> >>> Nick <[email protected]> hat am 13. 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