Here is an update on the Doo-Hicky. I went with a metal base OG-4, cherry 
wood for the case, was able to get one from Amazon Prime, and all in all 
very happy with it. This was probably the coolest, most retro-tech, and 
completely useless thing I could build for less than $50, but still pretty 
damn cool. My only complaint about the kit is that the 12V jack and the 
button are not adjacent to another, this would allow for a more minimalist 
case design, rather than having to put legs on it with the two components 
on opposite sides of the board. However, this is a mild inconvenience, and 
more of me just finding something to complain about. Overall, I really 
liked this project and especially liked the outcome. 

Thank you again for the advice on it!!!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/17J0zfseOXXUNMYcdAAXAiQiNFqQ8jnb8/view?usp=sharing
 


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lSIMnzE8mtR4WORX7GfpvDwT44jqSjwr/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wOI2a7XKHUDZAXosMfr5qyRKsPuZlLLt/view?usp=sharing

On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 10:44:40 AM UTC-4, Jon wrote:
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> OK, you are teetering on the edge of a very bad potential addiction by 
> wanting to dabble with dekatrons... :)
>
> I can't offer any help on the shipping point, but with regards to the 
> tubes themselves:
>
>    1. Orange (neon-based) dekatrons are *much* brighter in reality than 
>    the purple ones. Depending on how you're operating the tube, you may 
>    struggle to see the purple glow from distance in a brightly lit room, 
>    though they can be OK in subdued lighting.
>    2. Reliability of tubes. The issue I think you're referring to is the 
>    observation that high-speed dekatrons have an unfortunate habit of dying 
> in 
>    storage - even a true NIB tube can be stone dead on arrival. Low-speed 
>    dekatrons don't have this problem and generally speaking are tough 
> reliable 
>    tubes. The difference is primarily (but not exclusively) down to the gas 
>    mixes being used. Most purple-glowing tubes are in the high-speed 
> category, 
>    including your OG3 and OG7. So yes, they can be dodgy, so ideally buy from 
>    a seller who has tested the actual tube they're selling you, not just 
>    relying on the fact that the factory tested them before they were boxed up 
>    50 years ago.
>    3. Subject to the comment above, the Russian tubes are no less 
>    reliable than Western ones - ie their low speed tubes work just fine, and 
>    their high speed ones can be a lottery. Manufacturing tolerances can be 
>    less good, with the occasional wonky fitting of the base. The one area 
>    where the Western tubes do seem better is in the visibility of the glow. 
>    Many Russian tubes seem to be manufactured in a way that deposits a metal 
>    film on the inside of the glass dome at the top of the tube - I assume 
> this 
>    is sputtered material from initial cleaning of the cathode surfaces. While 
>    Western tubes have been through a similar process, in those tubes that 
>    material tends to be confined to the outer walls of the tube, leaving the 
>    top dome clear, and therefore providing a better view of the glowing 
>    electrodes. The degree of darkening is very variable between individual 
>    tubes and can be quite significant in reducing the visible light output of 
>    the tube (which may not be that high to start with for purple-glowing 
>    tubes...). My experience on this point with OG7 is better than with OG3, 
>    and better for the variants of the tubes that have metal shells around 
>    their bases compared with the plain black Bakelite type. But don't take 
>    that as a firm rule -  ask the seller to send you a top-view picture of 
> the 
>    actual tube you're buying and check you can see the cathode pins clearly.
>
> Where does this net out? As a top-level practical answer, if you're fixed 
> on having a purple glow from a readily-available cheap tube, I'd go for a 
> metal-based OG7. If you want to maximise visibility of your do-hickie, 
> I'd suggest one of the Ericsson GC10B family, 6802 or a well-chosen OG4. 
> Now, if you're wanting to imbibe more deeply of the drug, there are more 
> interesting and exotic possibilities you could explore... But the tubes get 
> harder to find of course. :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jon.
>

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