Thanks for the pictures. I only have one post variety with the wires. All 
other tubes, the Ultronics and the NOS Burroughs, have the trace 
connections and are basically identical except for the Ultronics/Burroughs 
branding. None have the full round insulator.

On Sunday, October 6, 2019 at 2:51:01 PM UTC-4, Jeff Walton wrote:
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> The older B7971s used wires on the backplane.  The really early B7971s had 
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> be more varieties from some of the others that have collected these tubes.  
> Amazingly, I have never had a 7971 fail except for physical damage.
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> *From:* [email protected] <javascript:> [mailto:
> [email protected] <javascript:>] *On Behalf Of *Robert G. 
> Schaffrath
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 6, 2019 12:51 PM
> *To:* neonixie-l
> *Subject:* [neonixie-l] Re: I'm Back: ZM1022 and B-7971
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> Here they are. They are genuine Burroughs without the Ultronics branding. 
> There is no darkening in the tube and the pins show no scratches indicative 
> of having been inserted into a socket. IIRC (it has been 40 years), the 
> vendor (Poly Paks? Meshna?) obtained them from a repair facility were they 
> were spares for the Ultronics boards. They were sold as unused and not 
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> Now besides those new tubes, I have in additional the six Ultronics tubes 
> being used by my clock, this one used Burroughs tube that was installed on 
> one of the Ultronics boards I purchased way back when. This one is 
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> The difference with this tube is it has a post sticking up above the 
> segment holder. I have no idea what the post does but none of the other 
> tubes has it. Also, as I recall when I tested the tube out, it has a 
> slightly darker red color than the Ultronics tubes. When I put it in my 
> clock, I could tell the difference next to the other five tubes. It might 
> have been that the tube had not "warmed" up or possibly the other tubes 
> have mercury or some other additive that lightened the color slightly.
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> On Saturday, October 5, 2019 at 2:22:54 PM UTC-4, Greg P wrote:
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> Please if you can post some pictures of the NOS 7971 tubes you have.  I've 
> and many in this group have never seen an NOS one.  Seems they're all pulls 
> from the Ultronics boards.
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