It might work if you use two for the anodes with Vpp set to 170V, and one for the cathodes with Vpp set to 75V.
The need to force things to a specific voltage is to make sure the transitions are fast to prevent ghosting or to prevent the off digits from glowing. When you move the power from the first anode to the next you will have to add a delay before you set the cathode states in order for the anode current in the first tube to drop to zero below the sustain voltage, otherwise the same cathode will light up in both tubes. Forcing the anode to ground means that delay can be smaller. Conversely, if the off cathodes aren’t clamped, it will take more time for them to rise from zero, which would cause the next tube to display the same digit as the first tube when you apply power to the anode. At least, that has been my experience. > On May 20, 2021, at 11:45 PM, Richard Scales <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sorry, I mean using the same type of device to control the anodes AND the > cathodes but but the actual same piece. > So, using an HV5523 (or perhaps multiple HV513, multiple because there are > probably 8 cathodes (seven segment panaplex displays) and 16 Anodes (16 > digits)) could be a way forward then. > Please could you let me know more about the need to clamp the cathodes to a > certain voltage? (Exposing my real lack of understanding here!) > - Richard > > >> On Thursday, 20 May 2021 at 19:37:57 UTC+1 Paul Andrews wrote: >> I used a HV5523 to drive both - it is open drain. It worked fine, but I >> needed to clamp the cathodes to around 75V. The thing about a push-pull >> driver is that the push part is to clamp the cathodes, so whatever you are >> driving it will switch them between 0v and the voltage you want to clamp the >> cathodes at (e.g. 75V), so you couldn't use the same chip to directly clamp >> the cathodes and the control the anodes. At best you could use it control >> the PNP high side transistor. >> >>> On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 11:55:26 AM UTC-4 Richard Scales wrote: >>> Thank you for that - I was looking at the HV513 which is push-pull and is >>> rated for the higher voltage levels. >>> >>> Being push pull - can I use those for the High side AND the low side? >>> >>> - Richard >>> >>> >>>> On Thursday, 20 May 2021 at 16:02:47 UTC+1 Paul Andrews wrote: >>>> The HV5622 has open drain outputs, so the cathodes will be left to >>>> gradually float to whatever value they feel like. They probably won't do >>>> this fast enough to prevent ghosting and you don't really want them to >>>> float in a multiplexed clock anyway. I would suggest a push-pull chip for >>>> the cathodes, like the HV9808. >>>> >>>>> On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 1:06:54 AM UTC-4 gregebert wrote: >>>>> For my current clock project, I have a 9-segment / 13-character display >>>>> that must be multiplexed, so I use a 4:16 decoder to drive PMOS >>>>> anode-transistors on the high-side. The 4 bits into the DeMUX are piped >>>>> thru digital isolators (SI8710), and driven from the FPGA. I use an >>>>> isolated DCDC converter to provide a negative 12V supply relative to the >>>>> anode supply (about 200V, because it's unregulated). >>>>> >>>>> The low-side for the cathodes are just NPN current-limiters, also driven >>>>> by the FPGA. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 9:21:49 PM UTC-7 Richard Scales wrote: >>>>>> I am trying to learn about multiplexed displays (I thought it was about >>>>>> time I had a go at this) and I believe that I understand the basics - >>>>>> in as much as it requires the switching of the required anode as well as >>>>>> the required cathode (all of which are wired in parallel). >>>>>> >>>>>> I understand that I can use something as simple as a single transistor >>>>>> for the cathode (low side) and a couple of transistors for the anode >>>>>> (high side). >>>>>> >>>>>> Again, for the low side driver I could use any of the 'standard' shift >>>>>> register type drivers that we use in clocks such as an HV5622 (I >>>>>> appreciate that's way too many bits and I'm sure that there will be a >>>>>> smaller equivalent part available. >>>>>> >>>>>> Specifically - is there such a part that I could use for the high side, >>>>>> ie switching the HV to the relevant anode? >>>>>> >>>>>> I know that I could use a simple shift register (74595 for example) plus >>>>>> the transistors for a high side switch, I just wonder if there is a >>>>>> part which does all that in one package? >>>>>> >>>>>> All pointers gleefully received. >>>>>> >>>>>> - Richard >>>>>> >>>>>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/neonixie-l/XWjWh-epHQc/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/edd2d9c8-bf41-43cf-af3b-546041d3fb0cn%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. 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