Paul, I'll ask him, but a quick search at Digikey showed both some RM10 and ETD29 cores, but only a few. Finding Ferrite cores today is not easy, I have searched some for other projects and they aren't usually stocked in the ranges that the manufacturers make them, and if you want something outside what is available in stock it becomes very expensive as you'll have to by thousands if not more. I usually try the ones they have and have to live with that since I can't buy the thousands needed to get the perfect one. I'll ask Ed to have a look and see if any of the ones that are stocked will do - just remember that they will have to be the transformer type without an airgap between the center pieces to work in this application.
/Martin On Wednesday, 1 September 2021 at 04:26:30 UTC+2 Paul Andrews wrote: > > Hi Martin > > I tried to find a suitable core at digikey, but their parameters don’t map > very well to the equation that Ed gives. Could he take a look at what they > have and perhaps recommend something. For simplicity’s sake I just looked > at toroids > https://www.digikey.com/en/products/filter/ferrite-cores/936?s=N4IgTCBcDaICoHsBOCCWATAhgGwAQGNkBTAZxAF0BfIA > > Thanks - Paul > On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 8:45:56 AM UTC-4 Dekatron42 wrote: > >> Since transformers isn't my best area, I only have basic understanding of >> the intricacies but I have experimented some with different transformers in >> different cases like when driving Trochotrons and Dekatrons I decided to >> ask an acquaintance who has worked with transformers. His name is Ed >> Dinning, I got to know him over at the UKVRRR forum (UK Vintage Radio >> Repair and Restoration forum: https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/), he >> told me you are welcome to contact him via me so that his email is somewhat >> protected - if you ask him anything related to the VFD-drivers it would >> be kind if you could post something here in this forum so we all can learn >> from it. >> >> This is his answer to my question on what transformer to chose for the >> driver in the article, it sure helped me and I hope it helps anyone who >> wants to experiment with this driver: >> >> "Hi Martin, as it operates about 50/100KHz virtually any ferrite should >> do. It should be a transformer type with no air gap. >> The turns are normally based on the transformer equation for square waves >> >> N= V/ 4 * F * B* Ae >> >> N=turns, V=volts F=frequency,B= flux density, typically 200/250mT for a >> ferrite, Ae the centre pole area in M^2 >> >> The actual losses come out later on in the design process and are not >> part of the initial criteria >> >> Copper sizing is normally based on 3A per mm^2 of cross sectional area >> >> The turns figure he gives looks about right for something like an RM10 >> core, or you could try an EE25 or an ETD29 core in sat F44 materials >> ETD's are the core of choice for this type of application and should be >> readily available. >> >> The more turns that are used the lower the iron losses and the cooler the >> core runs, but the copper losses increase unless fatter copper is used. >> Skin effect will be of minor importance at your frequency >> >> It would also work on a normal laminated core at 50Hz which should not be >> too big as you can run that at up to 1.5T flux density. >> Regulation could be a normal type of regulator set for constant current. >> >> Always many choices in Engineering >> >> Cheers, Ed >> >> Ed Dinning Retired Engineer" >> >> /Martin >> >> On Wednesday, 25 August 2021 at 23:02:48 UTC+2 Paul Andrews wrote: >> >>> When I have time, I will try the driver at the link Martin gave ( >>> http://www.nutsvolts.com/media-files/Forum-Articles/QA_201110.pdf), but >>> without the transformer initially. As far as I can tell, the transformer is >>> just to make the VFD drive isolated so you can pull it up above ground. >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/596cdfc3-0e71-4aff-9101-b47c781a92bdn%40googlegroups.com.
