Mark,

Interesting info, thank you! 

What is your voltage and filament current?

Regards,
-Moses

On Friday, November 18, 2022 at 12:21:21 PM UTC-8 Mark Moulding wrote:

> I usually drive the filaments non-multiplexed from 74HC595 shift registers 
> (technically slightly out of spec, but have always worked fine), and use 
> the output enable line to PWM all of the displays at once for brightness 
> control.  I run a separate PWM on each filament that's off, keeping it warm 
> to just below the level of visibility.
>
> I use a six entry look-up table for the PWM values, to create subjectively 
> similar steps in brightness.  Most people seem to run my clocks at level 3 
> or 4 (10/32 or 18/32 duty cycle, respectively). at level 6 (100% duty 
> cycle), the tubes see about 4.3 volts due to the drop across the -595 
> outputs.
>
> I was a regular at Burning Man for quite a few years, but last went in 
> 2017.  Now that it's happening again, I think we'll go back next year.  
> Glad you had a great time!
> ~~
> Mark Moulding
>
>
> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 5:55:57 PM UTC-8 [email protected] 
> wrote:
>
>> Mark,
>>
>> Going to try these posts again, not sure why they are getting deleted. 
>> Hope this makes it through.
>>
>> Good to hear on the IV-9 durability.. I've never ran them other then 
>> briefly on the bench. The specs on the IV9 show 3.15v and 20ma or so for 
>> the segments, which I believe may be underdriven already just looking at 
>> the color. They look pretty good at at 3.3v. What do you run yours at?
>>
>> Burning Man is awesome! My first burn was this year! Fun times!
>>
>> Regards,
>> -Moses
>>
>> On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 12:06:29 AM UTC-8 Mark Moulding wrote:
>>
>>> I've built quite a few devices using the IV-9 tubes, and found them to 
>>> be extremely durable. (I probably wouldn't be interested in a clock kit, as 
>>> I have about 3500 tubes in stock...)  If operated below their maximum 
>>> operating parameters (dimmed a little, and soft-started filaments), they'll 
>>> run essentially forever.  The DTF-104Bs are even better, and are really 
>>> fantastic-looking tubes.  They're also extremely rugged mechanically.  I've 
>>> built Burning Man Mutant Vehicle dashboards using these, and the rather 
>>> extreme conditions of that application didn't faze them at all.  I've also 
>>> had clocks running for nearly a decade with exactly zero failure due to the 
>>> tube burning out.  Impact with flying objects is another matter, but in 
>>> fact a tube survived for a minute or two even with its outer glass envelope 
>>> completely shattered.  Again, if operated within their specified 
>>> environment, their lifespan is essentially unlimited.
>>> ~~
>>> Mark Moulding
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 10:04:59 PM UTC-8 William Lee wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi there.   I'd be potentially interested in a numitron kit!
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 5:26 PM Moses <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Everybody,
>>>>>
>>>>> I seem to have enough IV-9 tubes to where I can produce a batch of 100 
>>>>> or so 6 digit numitron clocks. Thinking ESP32 powered like my last one 
>>>>> (Thank you to all those who gave suggestions, the kit came out great!). 
>>>>> I'm 
>>>>> thinking maybe try for a full through-hole solder kit with some shift 
>>>>> registers.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know nixies are more popular.. but anyone interested in a numitron 
>>>>> clock kit?
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, one question I do have, anyone have long term experience (ie, 
>>>>> years?) running this particular tube? How do they fare?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> -Moses
>>>>>
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