Thanks for the read references. I know this group has a shared drive with 
some reading material. Maybe I can find some of these there. 

I'm primarily interested in making a few special character display nixies 
like the in-12 tubes. More experimentation than anything. I've seen a gent 
on Youtube make one in his garage.  


On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 1:56:37 PM UTC-4 gregebert wrote:

> I did a lot of research about 15 years ago when I was thinking about doing 
> neon art. There are 3 really good books (The Neon Engineer's Notebook, Neon 
> Techniques, and The Neon Superguide) and I recommend you read all 3 
> cover-to-cover. Though not particularly for nixies, there is a lot of good 
> info about the overall process. I have yet to read the Weston text (Cold 
> Cathode Glow Discharge Tubes).
>
> You will need to pump down to the micron range, and that generally 
> requires a diffusion pump ( a fascinating device, and another topic on it's 
> own...) in addition to a traditional vane pump that will get you well-below 
> the millibar range. I decided against doing neon art because the bombarding 
> process is very dangerous; far more dangerous than experimenting with 
> microwave oven transformers.
>
> The manifolds I saw were made of glass, even the valves, and require a 
> special lubricant/sealant. I think you can use induction heating, rather 
> than bombarding, for removing impurities. The other thing that discouraged 
> me was the need to use mercury; it's rather toxic and I was concerned about 
> inhaling vapors. I'm not afraid of mercury in liquid form.
>
> Keep me posted if you start experimenting. I have a vacuum pump and intend 
> to do some basic tinkering with gas discharges, but I have no intention of 
> taking it to the point of making something durable.
>
> On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 10:23:32 AM UTC-7 Miles Thatch wrote:
>
>> I'm looking to experiment with making a cold cathode character display. I 
>> have plenty of experience experimenting with manufactured IN-12 tubes and 
>> the power supplies that drive these, but I want to step further to 
>> experiment in making my own.
>>
>> What grade of materials / tubing / valves should I be looking at to try 
>> and build my own jig for evacuating air from a tube and populating a gas?
>>
>> I don't suppose just about any valve with do (like liquid control valve) 
>> and looking at my hobbyist grade vacuum chamber, the tubing contains a 
>> spooled wire on the inside to provide rigidity to counter the vacuum forces.
>>
>> Would brass / copper tubing sealed with aluminum weld be suitable?
>>
>

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