I think the best approach would be to increase the HV. If you look at the 
discussions of glow physics in Weston or Acton for example, the lag in 
striking a glow from dark (which is what we're talking about here) is 
reduced by using an anode voltage materially above the threshold striking 
voltage. Overdrive is a matter of tube current rather than anode voltage 
per se, so a simple compensatory tweak to the current-limiting resistor 
value will get you back to the same tube current as now. The cost of the 
change will be a little extra power dissipated in the current-limiting 
resistors, but that should be immaterial in most circumstances.

Jon.

On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 3:27:11 AM UTC gregebert wrote:

> UV light source, such as from an LED ? 
>
> On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 6:43:48 PM UTC-8 Jeff Walton wrote:
>
>> I've recently come across a situation where I have some tubes in a clock 
>> that are being directly driven and are having trouble starting when the 
>> room is darkened but light right up when a room light is turned on.  These 
>> particular tubes were probably intended for use in a calculator.  They are 
>> seven segment neon MG-17G tubes.  Once the tubes have any of the segments 
>> lit, there is really no issue with the performance.  It's when the tubes go 
>> completely dark if a space is used while scrolling a message or lighting a 
>> dash on and off to emulate a colon.  I'm wondering if others have found any 
>> particular tricks to help convince tubes to light up.  There is no 
>> "baselighting" and the HV is ~172v.  I'm considering increasing the HV by 
>> 10-15v but don't want to over drive the tubes.  Short of putting a 
>> radioactive source in the vicinity, are there other things that anyone has 
>> had any luck with?
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>

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