Why  not a trial with UV-LED’s 365 nm is a useful wavelength and you don’t need 
to use then at full power. 

You can use them in a pulsed mode only during refresh of the display to avoid 
too much O3 production. Iyt is not as hazardous as the use of ß-radiating 
isotopes as used in rigger tubes.

 

eric

 

Van: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Namens Jon
Verzonden: donderdag 30 november 2023 9:25
Aan: neonixie-l
Onderwerp: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

 

I think the best approach would be to increase the HV. If you look at the 
discussions of glow physics in Weston or Acton for example, the lag in striking 
a glow from dark (which is what we're talking about here) is reduced by using 
an anode voltage materially above the threshold striking voltage. Overdrive is 
a matter of tube current rather than anode voltage per se, so a simple 
compensatory tweak to the current-limiting resistor value will get you back to 
the same tube current as now. The cost of the change will be a little extra 
power dissipated in the current-limiting resistors, but that should be 
immaterial in most circumstances.

 

Jon.

On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 3:27:11 AM UTC gregebert wrote:

UV light source, such as from an LED ? 

On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 6:43:48 PM UTC-8 Jeff Walton wrote:

I've recently come across a situation where I have some tubes in a clock that 
are being directly driven and are having trouble starting when the room is 
darkened but light right up when a room light is turned on.  These particular 
tubes were probably intended for use in a calculator.  They are seven segment 
neon MG-17G tubes.  Once the tubes have any of the segments lit, there is 
really no issue with the performance.  It's when the tubes go completely dark 
if a space is used while scrolling a message or lighting a dash on and off to 
emulate a colon.  I'm wondering if others have found any particular tricks to 
help convince tubes to light up.  There is no "baselighting" and the HV is 
~172v.  I'm considering increasing the HV by 10-15v but don't want to over 
drive the tubes.  Short of putting a radioactive source in the vicinity, are 
there other things that anyone has had any luck with?

 

Jeff

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