Have some 365 and 395nm LED chips on order to experiment with.  Will try 
some things when I get them.  Hopefully they will help and I can hide them 
under the tube.  I saw some 245nm LEDs but super expensive and larger.

On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 9:28:27 AM UTC-6 Tidak Ada wrote:

> Why  not a trial with UV-LED’s 365 nm is a useful wavelength and you don’t 
> need to use then at full power. 
>
> You can use them in a pulsed mode only during refresh of the display to 
> avoid too much O3 production. Iyt is not as hazardous as the use of 
> ß-radiating isotopes as used in rigger tubes.
>
>  
>
> eric
>
>  
>
> *Van:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *Namens 
> *Jon
> *Verzonden:* donderdag 30 november 2023 9:25
> *Aan:* neonixie-l
> *Onderwerp:* [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room
>
>  
>
> I think the best approach would be to increase the HV. If you look at the 
> discussions of glow physics in Weston or Acton for example, the lag in 
> striking a glow from dark (which is what we're talking about here) is 
> reduced by using an anode voltage materially above the threshold striking 
> voltage. Overdrive is a matter of tube current rather than anode voltage 
> per se, so a simple compensatory tweak to the current-limiting resistor 
> value will get you back to the same tube current as now. The cost of the 
> change will be a little extra power dissipated in the current-limiting 
> resistors, but that should be immaterial in most circumstances.
>
>  
>
> Jon.
>
> On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 3:27:11 AM UTC gregebert wrote:
>
> UV light source, such as from an LED ? 
>
> On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 6:43:48 PM UTC-8 Jeff Walton wrote:
>
> I've recently come across a situation where I have some tubes in a clock 
> that are being directly driven and are having trouble starting when the 
> room is darkened but light right up when a room light is turned on.  These 
> particular tubes were probably intended for use in a calculator.  They are 
> seven segment neon MG-17G tubes.  Once the tubes have any of the segments 
> lit, there is really no issue with the performance.  It's when the tubes go 
> completely dark if a space is used while scrolling a message or lighting a 
> dash on and off to emulate a colon.  I'm wondering if others have found any 
> particular tricks to help convince tubes to light up.  There is no 
> "baselighting" and the HV is ~172v.  I'm considering increasing the HV by 
> 10-15v but don't want to over drive the tubes.  Short of putting a 
> radioactive source in the vicinity, are there other things that anyone has 
> had any luck with?
>
>  
>
> Jeff
>
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