Thank you Jeff,

I'll check the archives and try something. I think it is not an early tube, so 
maybe I have a chance. It does not have the "pin top"

Best regards, 

Jim

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From: <[email protected]>
Sent: Feb 8, 2025 8:33 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [neonixie-l] B7971 Shorted Segments

If you search this group, there are a number of posts with photos of of 
successful repairs. I've had some success (>50%) but you need to consider that 
attempted repairs may not be successful and you risk the tube.  
 
The older style 7971s are more susceptible to being damaged by repair efforts, 
as they are not internally supported as well.  Older style means tubes with the 
wired backplane or tubes with the center post.   The PCB style internal 
construction is better supported in the envelope and stands up better to the 
hard shock needed to dislodge the overlapping cathodes.   Mechanical overlap 
failures are generally the ones that are successfully fixed.  Tubes that have 
been driven too hard with cathodes that are delaminating will generally fail 
again after operating for a short time.  "Fixing" those tubes tends to be 
temporary.  
 
Good luck, it's great to get a win. 
 
Jeff 
 
 
 
-------- Original message --------
From: Jim KO5V <[email protected]>
Date: 2/8/25 8:54 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: neonixie-l <[email protected]>
Subject: [neonixie-l] B7971 Shorted Segments
 

Hello,
 
I took two spare B7971 tubes out of the cabinet to see if they still worked. 
These tubes were always questionable, but I hoped I would get lucky. One is DOA 
- which I expected. The other tube is nice and bright, but the two vertical 
right-hand segments are shorted together. These are segments 2 and 3, which are 
pins 5 and 6, and they measure a dead short.
 
When it is displaying a zero or an 8, it looks almost normal, but those two 
segments seem a bit brighter to me. The 2, 6 and 3 are screwed up. The 
microprocessor in the two-digit clock is not happy, and the error is shared by 
the other tube if the same number is being  displayed on both tubes - this is 
not something that I'm too concerned about since the error goes away when I 
swap in a good tube.
 
Has anyone had any luck "whacking" the tubes in any particular direction to try 
to relieve this problem (by whacking, I mean slapping it into my palm)? Is 
there something else that I can try?
 
Thanks.  Jim
 
 
 

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