Hi Jarod

I skipped neon bulbs and and used trigger tubes. My first clock used XC18 tubes which originally had (long-gone) radioactive doping to get reliable operation in the dark. I then used Z700U tubes which have a primer electrode and do operate reliably in the dark.

Does anyone have experience with neon bulb ring counters operating in the dark?

Grahame

On 22/07/2025 21:07, Joe Croft wrote:
Hi Jarod,

I saw that about the ne-2 diodes. My solution was much more painful. I went through the neon lamps and matched them. I look forward to seeing the final clock!

-joe

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On Jul 21 2025, at 11:48 pm, Jarod Findley <[email protected]> wrote:

    I hoping the design I used is going to be robust enough for my
    circuit.  If you haven't read the attached website to the pdf I
    linked he has some very good information on ring counters and why
    the ne2 is so difficult to use in them. Im hoping the in28 are
    similar enough to be adapted.

    My next purchase definitely is going to be a quality bread boat
    and scope for doing some diagnostic work. Thanks for info and help
    guys ill definitely be simulating and real world testing. Ill keep
    the group posted

    On Mon, Jul 21, 2025, 9:16 PM Joe Croft <[email protected]> wrote:

        Hi Jarod.

        This reminds me of my NixieNeon clock,
        https://www.nixieneon.com/main/nixieneon-clock-documentation/.
        <https://www.nixieneon.com/main/nixieneon-clock-documentation/>
        This clock was a lot of fun but the ring counters could be
        hell! I had a lot of matching to do with the neon bulbs.
        Granted, I was using NE-2 lamps, not triggered neons for the
        counters. But the best I can tell, you are not using the
        trigger leads. Ig nore the processor, it is mostly for setting
        the time as well as giving a little eye candy every 5 minutes.
        The rings  will free run with out the processor.

        I recommend you bread board one or two of the rings.Also,  I
        was not able to coulpe just using a capacitor and a diode. I
        ended up needing a transistor. Of course all of that could
        have been from my short comings in hardware design (I am
        principally a software guy who loves the smell of rosin) .

        I hope your clock works out for you. I still have a love for
        ring counters like these.

        -joe

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        On Jul 18 2025, at 5:14 pm, Jarod Findley
        <[email protected]> wrote:

            Hi all this is my second post and I'm still learning a
            lot  about nixies-neon tubes and how they work. This is my
            first project design i used this schematic
            
<https://www.pa3fwm.nl/projects/neonclock2/pa3fwm_neonclock2_schematic.pdf> to
            design a clock around in-28 neon tubes and some large size
            nixies like zin-70. I have not calculated values for the
            resistors and such nor have I tested anything yet. Id like
            to know if my design is correct before I move it into the
            real world. It will have a ring counter for the Hours,
            Minutes, Seconds, Am Pm, and a 60 ring counter to visually
            indicate the seconds. This will be a 12 hour clock and
            have Am Pm tubes. My plan is to design a nice case and
            have it displayed in my living room. I know its ambitious
            for a first time project and apricate any feed back,
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