https://www.pa3fwm.nl/projects/neonclock2/

Sorry this is the write up I was referring to the other one is still very
informative

On Wed, Jul 23, 2025, 1:39 AM Jarod Findley <[email protected]> wrote:

> https://www.pa3fwm.nl/projects/neonclock/
>
> In this write up you can see he addresses the problem of the neon bulbs
> not being able to light in the dark with blue leds. I wonder if you could
> use ir leds and keep it invisible
>
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 5:13 PM 'Grahame Marsh' via neonixie-l <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jarod
>>
>> I skipped neon bulbs and and used trigger tubes. My first clock used XC18
>> tubes which originally had (long-gone) radioactive doping to get reliable
>> operation in the dark. I then used Z700U tubes which have a primer
>> electrode and do operate reliably in the dark.
>>
>> Does anyone have experience with neon bulb ring counters operating in the
>> dark?
>>
>> Grahame
>> On 22/07/2025 21:07, Joe Croft wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jarod,
>>
>> I saw that about the ne-2 diodes. My solution was much more painful. I
>> went through the neon lamps and matched them. I look forward to seeing the
>> final clock!
>>
>> -joe
>>
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>> On Jul 21 2025, at 11:48 pm, Jarod Findley <[email protected]>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I hoping the design I used is going to be robust enough for my circuit.
>> If you haven't read the attached website to the pdf I linked he has some
>> very good information on ring counters and why the ne2 is so difficult to
>> use in them. Im hoping the in28 are similar enough to be adapted.
>>
>> My next purchase definitely is going to be a quality bread boat and scope
>> for doing some diagnostic work. Thanks for info and help guys ill
>> definitely be simulating and real world testing. Ill keep the group posted
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 21, 2025, 9:16 PM Joe Croft <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jarod.
>>
>> This reminds me of my NixieNeon clock,
>> https://www.nixieneon.com/main/nixieneon-clock-documentation/.
>> <https://www.nixieneon.com/main/nixieneon-clock-documentation/>  This
>> clock was a lot of fun but the ring counters could  be hell! I had a lot of
>> matching to do with the neon bulbs. Granted, I was using NE-2 lamps, not
>> triggered neons for the counters. But the best I can tell, you are not
>> using the trigger leads. Ig nore the processor, it is mostly for setting
>> the time as well as giving a little eye candy every 5 minutes. The rings
>> will free run with out the processor.
>>
>> I recommend you bread board one or two of the rings.Also,  I was not able
>> to coulpe just using a capacitor and a diode. I ended up needing a
>> transistor. Of course all of that could have been from my short comings in
>> hardware design (I am principally a software guy who loves the smell of
>> rosin) .
>>
>> I hope your clock works out for you. I still have a love for ring
>> counters like these.
>>
>> -joe
>>
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>> On Jul 18 2025, at 5:14 pm, Jarod Findley <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Hi all this is my second post and I'm still learning a lot  about
>> nixies-neon tubes and how they work. This is my first project design i used
>> this schematic
>> <https://www.pa3fwm.nl/projects/neonclock2/pa3fwm_neonclock2_schematic.pdf> 
>> to
>> design a clock around in-28 neon tubes and some large size nixies like
>> zin-70. I have not calculated values for the resistors and such nor have I
>> tested anything yet. Id like to know if my design is correct before I move
>> it into the real world. It will have a ring counter for the Hours, Minutes,
>> Seconds, Am Pm, and a 60 ring counter to visually indicate the seconds.
>> This will be a 12 hour clock and have Am Pm tubes. My plan is to design a
>> nice case and have it displayed in my living room. I know its ambitious for
>> a first time project and apricate any feed back,
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