I can't see IR leds working, though I haven't tried them UV leds are
more likely to work. Might be made invisible if filtered unless Nixies
have any phosphors in them.

Yes, I know they don't rely on phosphors but you might find some
cement or getter residue or something that fluoresces.


On Fri, Jul 25, 2025 at 2:08 AM Jarod Findley <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> https://www.pa3fwm.nl/projects/neonclock2/
>
> Sorry this is the write up I was referring to the other one is still very 
> informative
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2025, 1:39 AM Jarod Findley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> https://www.pa3fwm.nl/projects/neonclock/
>>
>> In this write up you can see he addresses the problem of the neon bulbs not 
>> being able to light in the dark with blue leds. I wonder if you could use ir 
>> leds and keep it invisible
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 5:13 PM 'Grahame Marsh' via neonixie-l 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Jarod
>>>
>>> I skipped neon bulbs and and used trigger tubes. My first clock used XC18 
>>> tubes which originally had (long-gone) radioactive doping to get reliable 
>>> operation in the dark. I then used Z700U tubes which have a primer 
>>> electrode and do operate reliably in the dark.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have experience with neon bulb ring counters operating in the 
>>> dark?
>>>
>>> Grahame
>>>
>>> On 22/07/2025 21:07, Joe Croft wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Jarod,
>>>
>>> I saw that about the ne-2 diodes. My solution was much more painful. I went 
>>> through the neon lamps and matched them. I look forward to seeing the final 
>>> clock!
>>>
>>> -joe
>>>
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>>> On Jul 21 2025, at 11:48 pm, Jarod Findley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I hoping the design I used is going to be robust enough for my circuit.  If 
>>> you haven't read the attached website to the pdf I linked he has some very 
>>> good information on ring counters and why the ne2 is so difficult to use in 
>>> them. Im hoping the in28 are similar enough to be adapted.
>>>
>>> My next purchase definitely is going to be a quality bread boat and scope 
>>> for doing some diagnostic work. Thanks for info and help guys ill 
>>> definitely be simulating and real world testing. Ill keep the group posted
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 21, 2025, 9:16 PM Joe Croft <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Jarod.
>>>
>>> This reminds me of my NixieNeon clock, 
>>> https://www.nixieneon.com/main/nixieneon-clock-documentation/.  This clock 
>>> was a lot of fun but the ring counters could  be hell! I had a lot of 
>>> matching to do with the neon bulbs. Granted, I was using NE-2 lamps, not 
>>> triggered neons for the counters. But the best I can tell, you are not 
>>> using the trigger leads. Ig nore the processor, it is mostly for setting 
>>> the time as well as giving a little eye candy every 5 minutes. The rings  
>>> will free run with out the processor.
>>>
>>> I recommend you bread board one or two of the rings.Also,  I was not able 
>>> to coulpe just using a capacitor and a diode. I ended up needing a 
>>> transistor. Of course all of that could have been from my short comings in 
>>> hardware design (I am principally a software guy who loves the smell of 
>>> rosin) .
>>>
>>> I hope your clock works out for you. I still have a love for ring counters 
>>> like these.
>>>
>>> -joe
>>>
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>>> On Jul 18 2025, at 5:14 pm, Jarod Findley <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> Hi all this is my second post and I'm still learning a lot  about 
>>> nixies-neon tubes and how they work. This is my first project design i used 
>>> this schematic to design a clock around in-28 neon tubes and some large 
>>> size nixies like zin-70. I have not calculated values for the resistors and 
>>> such nor have I tested anything yet. Id like to know if my design is 
>>> correct before I move it into the real world. It will have a ring counter 
>>> for the Hours, Minutes, Seconds, Am Pm, and a 60 ring counter to visually 
>>> indicate the seconds. This will be a 12 hour clock and have Am Pm tubes. My 
>>> plan is to design a nice case and have it displayed in my living room. I 
>>> know its ambitious for a first time project and apricate any feed back,
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