I think that it is time for a complete explanation about why mica cannot be 
used.
Please see the following video.   https://youtu.be/9r5NCVR_zYU
Go to 14:00 to see Mr. Glass Slinger using a mica wafer to support the 
various cathodes inside of his famous "Dancing Cowboy" nixie tube.
Later on in this video, the tube is shown lit up and working.    The 
original B-7971 used mica.  Mica has always been used extensively
inside of all kinds of vacuum tubes.   Please explain to me why all of a 
sudden there seems to be a need to re-invent the wheel?
Why not stick with what is known through 100 years of experience to work?  
  What am I missing here?   What is the great difficulty with mica?
Does it outgas a loat of contaminents as it bakes out?    Mica is not that 
costly either, as far as I know.    I have used it quite a bit making new 
diaphragms
when restoring original Edison cylinder phonograph recorders.    A 
discussion of the pros and cons of mica would be greatly appreciated.
Thnaks     -Chuck

On Monday, September 29, 2025 at 2:06:09 AM UTC-4 Rik Declercq wrote:

> So called 'paper-clay' might do the trick. Basically white clay with paper 
> fibers in it, very strong, can be made very thin and flat, even up to the 
> point of translucency. 
> one can punch out tiny holes to later add soldering anchors etc. 
> (the fibers burn off while firing the kiln)
>
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2025 at 1:40 PM '[email protected]' via neonixie-l <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hello Sadudu, 
>>   
>> Sorry that it failed and thanks for sharing. 
>>  
>>
> And this cup is made of.... Ceramics. 
>>   
>> So why not make the PCB / shape plate out of clay and bake that. 
>> Once baked, the clay can withstand quite high temperatures. 
>> And it will not deform once it is backed. 
>> Also, a test with this needs not be very expensive. 
>> Most likely there are quite a few "hobby-potorists" to be found to use an 
>> oven. 
>>   
>> Just a thought to ponder on... :-) 
>>
> 28.1759059601866%40kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl 
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/1594599068.494628.1759059601866%40kpc.webmail.kpnmail.nl?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>
>> .
>>
>

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