On Thursday, October 30, 2025 at 3:38:32 PM UTC-4 Mac Doktor wrote:

Are we off-topic yet?

Probably - but a good statistician can tie everything together ;-)

But to get back on topic - does anyone know the original designer or source 
for the Chinese scope clock kit control boards?  Like most low cost China 
electronic modules, I'm guessing it's a copy of a controller designed 
elsewhere.  They seem to have gone through a few iterations, but the 
current ones look like this (Alibaba example 
<https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808916975063.html>).  They are marked 
Xiao ni / oscilloscope_driver 4.6 and are a single board 
power/controller/driver powered by 12VDC with onboard CCFL type xfrmr and a 
DIP style microcontroller daughterboard.  I know someone who has one but 
haven't had the opportunity to inspect it closely or identify what mcu its 
using.  There are a few jumper pads to select various voltages - one set is 
marked -550V / -850V / -1100V and the other is marked +200 / +300.  No 
doubt to select cathode and anode/deflection voltages for driving different 
tubes.  I haven't been able to find any information about them on the web 
and I don't recall seeing similar boards elsewhere that must be the 
original designer.  They seem to be running the Dutchtronix firmware and 
the menu has options for things like GPS and Serial terminal, but there are 
no connectors for those features on the board and I didn't notice any 
unpopulated pins on the board for them.  Perhaps they just omitted the 
hardware but left the firmware in true cheap clone style?

If they're going to steal the firmware, I doubt they're going to invest in 
designing original hardware lol.  This is probably what happens when 
someone contracts a Chinese pcb factory to make their boards - and the 
factory sees an opportunity to make a few extra bucks.  Of course, once one 
Chinese company starts making them the other companies down the street 
start making them too.  It's like the wild west of intellectual property 
over there... 

But the kit seems to work - I've seen the 8S31J crt version and it looks 
decent.  The crt seems like a 3RP1A copy with a thicker neck and is another 
component that Google cannot find - no datasheets anywhere.

On Thursday, October 30, 2025 at 3:32:11 PM UTC-4 Nicholas Stock wrote:

I always thought the 'A' designation meant their specs were better....


I always understood the 'A' to indicate the flat face version as opposed to 
the standard radiused face of the 3RP1. 


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