Hi Bruno. Didn't you and I share a hotel room in Bergen, NO many years ago?
I think I get your point. Yes, programming code is like a blueprint in a way. That blueprint then gets interpreted by a computer or software and then turns into an action. A movie or play script is also a blueprint but one that gets interpreted by humans. Obviously, a human "interpretation" of something is going to be a lot more flexible than a computer's interpretation of code. Therein lies the main difference between those two schematics. What I'm proposing is a bit of a hybrid. If I feel that my own (human) interpretation of a piece of code is going to make the outcome somehow better (or just different, if people prefer), then I'm going to do so from the perspective of a human who knows full well how the code will perform when interpreted by the computer. So it's still grounded in a more restrictive outcome than a movie or play script. If I allow myself too much freedom in my interpretation, then I might as well abandon the programming code part and we're basically back to 60s conceptualism. I'm looking for something similar but different. I do believe that the text of programming code can stand on its own as works of art and have pursued that angle for several years in my Microcodes (http://pallthayer.dyndns.org/microcodes/) and Object Oriented Art Code ( http://pallthayer.dyndns.org/stealthiscodeart/). I see the ideas that I'm pitching here as my "logical next step". Best r. Pall On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 2:53 AM Bruno Vianna via NetBehaviour < netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote: > hi Pall > > I don't know if I'm playing devil's advocate or standing for your > point, but it comes to my mind the idea of a blueprint, which is not > exclusive to code. Wouldn't a script for a movie, the lines of a > play, be also forms of laying out a final shape? And these codes > (text) are also self-standing pieces of art? I could go even further > and think of the frames of a movie compared to the screened result in > a session. > > In case, the argument is very interesting. > > Bruno > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 7:13 PM Pall Thayer via NetBehaviour > <netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote: > > > > As some on this list know, for many years, I've been pushing the notion > that programming code should be viewed as an artistic medium when it's used > to create art. The artist molds it into shape, as they would with a lump of > clay, until it takes its final form. When I've discussed these ideas, I've > always gotten a lot of pushback. People will say that programming code is a > tool, like a paintbrush, not the medium, like paint. I don't agree. This > notion has piqued my interest again in the wake of a rising trend where > artists are creating graphic images by only using HTML/CSS (e.g. > https://a.singlediv.com/ , https://diana-adrianne.com/purecss-francine/ ). > > > > The problem with computer programmed art, however, is that it requires a > computer. In my mind, there really hasn't been any justifiable reason to > display computer programmed art on anything other than a computer... unless > it adds something significant to the work. And this is something > interesting that has recently occurred to me. I came up with this really > simply piece: > > > > http://pallthayer.dyndns.org/notApixel/ > > > > And have decided that this piece, although based entirely on computer > programming code, will work better when divorced from the computer and the > browser's interpretation of the code. On my 4k screen, it's practically > impossible to see the red pixel in the center. If I remove the work from > the environment that interprets the code, I'm free to determine the size of > a single pixel: > > > > http://pallthayer.dyndns.org/notApixel/notApixel.png > > > > And I could choose to produce that piece in any physical material I > want. It could be a block of wood glued to a panel of wood. What determines > the size of a pixel of wood? What determines the result of a hexadecimal > color code when it's been removed from the computer? If the code is to be > interpreted in wood, what does #f00 mean? > > > > My main point is that with the example shown above, the piece can be > made to work better at a conceptual level than it would if it were not > removed from the browser environment. > > > > I'd love to hear other people's ideas on this. I did just write this all > off the top of my head, so if I'm rambling and things don't make sense, > just ask and I'll do my best to clarify. > > > > Pall Thayer > > > > -- > > ***************************** > > Pall Thayer > > artist > > http://pallthayer.dyndns.org > > ***************************** > > _______________________________________________ > > NetBehaviour mailing list > > NetBehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org > > https://lists.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org > https://lists.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > -- ***************************** Pall Thayer artist http://pallthayer.dyndns.org *****************************
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