Hi Paul,

The essence it seemed to me wasn't self-referentiality or touch (good unix command too), so much as it was about targeting the ab/use/er, as well as dirtiness. And code's always clean; even dirty code's clean, so there's that barrier which is interesting and the question is - which for me parallels the clean/dirty avatar phenomenology - how can that be broken down psychologically - how can that sort of dis/comfort be recreated, or can't it? With avatar, it's useful to create a kind of iconicity which also functions on an indexical plain - texturing a human face or sexual body for example. But code/ascii (pre-compiling which brings up, maybe it's in the binaries that this stuff lies) has a different kind of clarity and it's hard to see how dis/embodiment might function, even comfortably, this way. The difference between code as medium (strict code) might be clearer than ways of smudging it. Obviously I don't code, or code poorly, so in a way I don't know what I'm talking about, and I admire what you're doing - I'm just wondering about things like the body of code, the coded body, the decoded body...

- Alan


On Thu, 2 Jul 2009, Pall Thayer wrote:

Hi Alan,

One of the primary reasons that I've "redone" a number of known pieces
by other artists in these Microcodes is more to point out the
difference between code as a medium and other media. So the point
isn't necessarily to emulate the work as closely as possible but
rather to capture a single "essence" of it in very compact code. I
think that trying to work the incline and fantasies into this
"version" of the work would result in considerably more code which
would in turn make the work overly complex.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Alan Sondheim<[email protected]> wrote:


I knew Vito well back then and visited Seedbed many times - you're missing
the grittiness & the compression of the incline - hope you can write them
in! The work was obviously uncomfortable, and anyone on the slope was the
target of his fantasizing, not to mention the reverse as well - Alan



On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, james morris wrote:


Ahh! I deleted them! But they're archived on the net.


a less clear version of seedbed:


#!/usr/bin/perl
$myself = `id -un`;
$mybody = "/home/$myself";
while(1){
 `touch $mybody`;
 print `ls -ld $mybody`;
 print `finger $mys...@localhost`;
}


--
james




On 1/7/2009, "Pall Thayer" <[email protected]> wrote:

....revisited electronically. Those who follow the list closely may see
immediately that this was inspired in part by James Morris'
'Microcrudities' a while back. Trying to emulate such human activities
in short code is really interesting.

http://pallit.lhi.is/microcodes/index.php?code_id=29

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