nothing to add except my thanks for having the discussion in front of us. brian
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Alan Sondheim <[email protected]> wrote: > > Think we're pretty much in agreement here! > > Thanks for the discussion, Alan > > > On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, Curt Cloninger wrote: > > >> The best art teaching I've seen (and hopefully articipated in) was Lutz > >> Presser's in Tasmania, and David Askevold's at Nova Scotia; in both > cases, > >> they/we assumed the students were already artists/agents, and treated > them > >> as such. So making art became a cooperative effort - sharing techniques > >> when needed, but not imposing anything. And believe it or not, everyone > >> rose to the occasion. It's as if nothing was taught at all but > everything > >> was learned. It was astonishing. > > > > This sits well with me as a pedagogical practice. It makes me think > > of Ranciere's "Ignorant Schoolmaster." If I am the teacher/explicator > > with the correct answer, then in order to liberate my students with > > my wisdom and knowledge, I first have to convince them that they > > aren't yet liberated. This is a form of oppression masquarading as > > emancipation. As the situationists say, "Don't liberate me. I'll take > > care of that." > > > > I, as the teacher, don't arbitrate/decide "what matters." But the > > student still must decide this for herself. That is her own pragmatic > > question as a practicing artist. Because she has been thrown into the > > world with a body that can act on things and with a limited amount of > > time to live. She is the steward of this body and time. So the art > > work she makes must at least matter to her; otherwise she would spend > > her time, money, and bodily energy on some other activity she deemed > > more worthy. > > > > What kind of pedagogy best comes alongside my student and helps her > > discover what matters to her? That becomes my own "pragmatic" > > question as a practicing teacher. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NetBehaviour mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > > > > > > == > email archive: http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ > webpage http://www.alansondheim.org > music archive: http://www.espdisk.com/alansondheim/ > == > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com
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