Well Simon,

I will check out this acclaimed genius right away!

Helas,  I thought he/she ? was a neo gnostic, but sadly it appears I  
was mistaken

Can't wait to be initiated though

Best

Andreas Maria Jacobs

w: http://www.nictoglobe.com
w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl

On 29 Dec 2010, at 22:26, Simon Biggs <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Andreas
>
> I fear you are simply unaware of the Ocker wisdom that is Les  
> Patterson's
> socio-political vision. It's not so much cross-cultural as sub- 
> cultured.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F7E7lAp-hM
>
> I'm familiar, as I am sure most on Netbehaviour are, with Gutattari,  
> Weiner
> and Varela (there are some strained connections in that mix) but  
> Patterson
> demonstrates why we might need to broaden our cultural frameworks.
>
> Best
>
> Simon
>
>
> On 29/12/2010 17:51, "De wraak van Baltassar Geraards" <[email protected] 
> >
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Simon
>>
>> As a bactery myself I thought that culture was the total of human
>> thought and practises and not the way life grows on a petri dish.
>>
>> But that's problably an 'art' related term  not suited for  
>> discussions
>> dealing with humans
>>
>> What are we talking about biology or humanities?
>>
>> Or maybe the concept of 'autopoiesis' viewed as a post gnostic?  
>> Adamos
>> as the bringer of truth for herbal life?
>>
>> Or is this supposed to be 'cross cultural'?
>>
>> I am very sorry, but being aquintant with the works of Guattari and
>> the father of cybernetics; Norbert Wiener, I am having difficulties
>> with the obviousness of these theses
>>
>> Some interesting works:
>>
>> See:
>>
>> Fransisco Varela et al.: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Varela
>>
>> Guatari:http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Félix_Guattari
>>
>> Norbert Wiener:http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norbert_Wiener
>>
>>
>> Andreas Maria Jacobs
>>
>> w: http://www.nictoglobe.com
>> w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl
>>
>> On 29 Dec 2010, at 12:24, Simon Biggs <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Bacteria is the very definition of culture! As Les Patterson  
>>> (sometime
>>> cultural attache for Australia) said, "culture - that's what grows
>>> between
>>> your toes".
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29/12/2010 08:53, "De wraak van Baltassar Geraards" <[email protected]
>>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> 4. Culture is all the way down; every organism is a priori  
>>>>> cultural.
>>>>
>>>> Agree partly, what are the cultural products of for instance
>>>> bacteria?
>>>
>>>
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