If the USA, Britain, France &c had been serious about the emancipation of the Libyan people they would have immediately & selectively lifted the arms embargo to supply the rebels free of charge or at preferential rates with the weaponry needed to finish the job. The fact that they are prepared to rain down relatively random destruction from the air but even now cannot agree on this elementary step ( for despite all their democratic talk they are shit scared of the self activity of the Arab masses -listen to them on Yemen, for example) shows they, as always, are acting only from self interest cloaked in humanitarian rhetoric. michael
--- On Thu, 3/31/11, Pall Thayer <pallt...@gmail.com> wrote: From: Pall Thayer <pallt...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] There's No Business Like War Business <long> To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" <netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org> Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 2:37 AM Its hard to stand on either side of the fence on these issues. Again, saying that we knew that one thing would prevail over another is easy to state after the fact. If nothing had been done, we would be complaining that the world is just standing there watching as a madman slaughters his constituents. Now that something has been done, we complain that its all for commercial interests. Its a no win situation. On Mar 30, 2011 9:17 PM, "Andreas Maria Jacobs" <aj...@xs4all.nl> wrote: > Mmm.... > > I mean it, we knew beforehand that the military commercial interests > prevail the humanitarian and also knew the enormous amounts of money > involved > > Think about Afghanistan, Vietnam, The Black Water affair, the > privatisation of the American - and in the near future European - > prison system , Fort Europe, which is excesevely handed over to > private security companies, the US base in Bahrain, the ownership of > more than halve of Londons real estate by the dreadful Saudis etc etc > > > We knew and when we did not we were ignorant > > "Ignorance is a Crime" > > Andreas Maria Jacobs > > w: http://www.nictoglobe.com > w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl > > On Mar 31, 2011, at 2:39, Pall Thayer <pallt...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> That's easy to say now. >> >> On Mar 30, 2011 8:36 PM, "Andreas Maria Jacobs" <aj...@xs4all.nl> >> wrote: >> > The same >> > >> > Andreas Maria Jacobs >> > >> > w: http://www.nictoglobe.com >> > w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl >> > >> > On Mar 31, 2011, at 2:30, Pall Thayer <pallt...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> And if no one had intervened... I wonder what these same people >> >> would be saying. >> >> >> >> On Mar 30, 2011 8:10 PM, "Joel Weishaus" <weish...@pdx.edu> wrote: >> >> > I think we can say that any military adventure the US government >> >> (and others) embark on is less for humanitarian reasons, or >> >> "democacy," and more for corporate profits. >> >> > Only one thing has changed since the days of the Golden Hoard: >> the >> >> Khan family was more honest in its objectives. >> >> > >> >> > -Joel >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: Andreas Maria Jacobs >> >> > To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:15 PM >> >> > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] There's No Business Like War Business >> >> <long> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > From Asia Times by Pepe Escobar >> >> > >> >> > In English but should not be a problem for you well educated >> >> elitists; - ) >> >> > >> >> > http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MC30Ak01.html?sms_ss=email&at_xt=4d93ac6f72f55db1%2C0 >> >> > >> >> > --- Andreas Maria Jacobs >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > w: http://www.nictoglobe.com >> >> > w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> --- >> >> --- >> >> --- >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > NetBehaviour mailing list >> >> > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org >> >> > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> >> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org >> >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
