Joel Weishaus wrote:

Humans have always been saved by nature, not the other way around.

You're right Joel, but not in the way you suggest. Humans have always been part 
of nature. We're one of nature's wonderful creations. Why would nature imbue 
humans with imagination and the capacity to learn from mistakes if not to use 
it?

Bob




>________________________________
>From: Joel Weishaus <[email protected]>
>To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity 
><[email protected]>
>Sent: Monday, 5 September 2011, 18:06
>Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] The End of Growth
>
>If economies were run by sane grown-ups, instead of political hacks only 
>interested in retaining their own power, lifestyle, and infantile 
>fantasties, we could talk about such things as a steady state economy, or 
>even how to contain human population growth, which is at the core of the 
>planet's
 problems. At this point, however--and we've been here many times 
>before--the only thing that's going to save us, ironically, is a steady 
>state of disasters. No amount of "green technology" will make a significant 
>change in direction. Humans have always been saved by nature, not the other 
>way around.
>
>-Joel
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "dave miller" <[email protected]>
>To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" 
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>Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 7:41 AM
>Subject: [NetBehaviour] The End of Growth
>
>
>Perpetual economic growth is neither possible nor desirable. Growth,
>especially in wealthy
 nations, is already causing more problems than
>it
 solves.
>Recession isn't sustainable or healthy either. The positive,
>sustainable alternative is a steady state economy.
>
>http://steadystate.org/
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