Joel,
It's hard to find fault in what you say. Yet it seems to me your illuminating
explanation is impressive proof of our ability to learn from mistakes!
Best,
Bob
>________________________________
>From: Joel Weishaus <[email protected]>
>To: Netbehaviour <[email protected]>
>Sent: Tuesday, 6 September 2011, 19:42
>Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] The End of Growth
>
>
>
>Bob;
>
>Since you took the time to reply, here is an
elucidation.
>
>Every since the West adopted a Sky God, who created
a world outside himself, and then, as the primary Western myth goes, gave
humans dominion over it, in culture and economy we have been separate from
nature. This is where the problem begins. If you follow American
politics, we are "still crazy after all these years."
>
>Meanwhile, our beloved sciences work to understand natural law in order to
control it, not to adopt it. One of the consequences of this is that
we are stuck in the ego's, and capitalism's, dream of technological
solutions. Green businesses, green buildings, green
T-shirts. Unfortunately, we don't learn from our mistakes. Thus, as Maurice
Blanchot wrote, "There is only the disaster."
>
>On the bright side, Dark Times are when artists are most needed.,
gifted people who have "Cezanne's anxiety."
>
>Best,
>Joel
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>>From: bob catchpole
>>To: Joel Weishaus ; NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
>>Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 2:15 AM
>>Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] The End of Growth
>>
>>
>>Joel Weishaus wrote:
>>
>>Humans have always been saved by nature, not the other way around.
>>
>>
>>You're right Joel, but not in the way you suggest. Humans have always been
>>part of nature. We're one of nature's wonderful creations. Why would nature
>>imbue humans with imagination and the capacity to learn from mistakes if not
>>to use it?
>>
>>Bob
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>________________________________
>>> From: Joel Weishaus <[email protected]>
>>>To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
>>><[email protected]>
>>>Sent: Monday, 5 September 2011, 18:06
>>>Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] The End of Growth
>>>
>>>If economies were run by sane
grown-ups, instead of political hacks only
>>>interested in retaining their
own power, lifestyle, and infantile
>>>fantasties, we could talk about such
things as a steady state economy, or
>>>even how to contain human
population growth, which is at the core of the
>>>planet's problems. At
this point, however--and we've been here many times
>>>before--the only
thing that's going to save us, ironically, is a steady
>>>state of
disasters. No amount of "green technology" will make a significant
>>>change in direction. Humans have always been saved by nature, not the
other
>>>way around.
>>>
>>>-Joel
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "dave miller" <[email protected]>
>>>To:
"NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity"
>>><[email protected]>
>>>Sent:
Monday, September 05, 2011 7:41 AM
>>>Subject: [NetBehaviour] The End of
Growth
>>>
>>>
>>>Perpetual economic growth is neither possible nor
desirable. Growth,
>>>especially in wealthy nations, is already causing more
problems than
>>>it solves.
>>>Recession isn't sustainable or healthy
either. The positive,
>>>sustainable alternative is a steady state
economy.
>>>
>>>http://steadystate.org/
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