Hi Michael & Annie,
> your kindness does you credit but I do think there absolutely has to be
>space for humour, even sharply parodic or satirical humour in art. If the
>work is solid it will survive it.
Well, Marina Abramovic''s work will survive --- however, not because of
quality but because of the power systems in place to make history happen
for artists who adhere to the role and myth of genius, it is all part of
the inside joke for those who rule the 'propriety based' art world.
>Ironically the various satirical japes she has engendered help to
>confirm her in this role.
Sadly, this may be true ;-(
wishing you well.
marc
> HI Annie
> your kindness does you credit but I do think there absolutely has to
be space for humour, even sharply parodic or satirical humour in art. If
the work is solid it will survive it.
> An interesting question is why MA and not you. I would venture:
> (1) You are deeply serious about your work but you don't give off the
aroma of pious smugness which I'm afraid for me MA does.
> (2) Although you set up rigorous structures in your work you are open
to surprise, to human frailty and intervention ( indeed I'd argue that
it is one of your central themes) - you *trust* people - MA shuts out
the intervention of others in her Serpentine piece - people have to give
up phones, cameras, whatever at the door. This particular response ( the
pug piece) comes as no surprise to me. I had given some thought to how
one might assert the rights of the audience ( including those of other
artists -the right to record, to think contrary thoguhts and act upon
them &c) vis a vis the Sepentine performance but couldn't think of
anything that either wouldn't involve me getting arrested or would cost
too much.
> (3) MA is an art superstar/celebrity. My starting point is that
someone in this extraordinarily unnatural & privileged position has to
repeatedly prove that they are worth it. Ironically the various
satirical japes she has engendered help to confirm her in this role.
> cheers
> michael
> From: Annie Abrahams <[email protected]>
> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
<[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 2:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] MARINA ABRAMOPUG the genius!
> I wouldn't like to be made fun of like this, would you?
>
> M A made some errors, but the performance this is referring too was
good as far as I am concerned
> Best
> Annie
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 1:27 PM, helen varley jamieson
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> it's great :)
>
> On 21/08/14 11:19 AM, marc garrett wrote:
>> MARINA ABRAMOPUG
>>
>> The 'official' genius performance artist at Serpentine | best
show yet ;-)
>>
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HI Annie
your kindness does you credit but I do think there absolutely has to
be space for humour, even sharply parodic or satirical humour in art.
If the work is solid it will survive it.
An interesting question is why MA and not you. I would venture:
(1) You are deeply serious about your work but you don't give off the
aroma of pious smugness which I'm afraid for me MA does.
(2) Although you set up rigorous structures in your work you are open
to surprise, to human frailty and intervention ( indeed I'd argue that
it is one of your central themes) - you *trust* people - MA shuts out
the intervention of others in her Serpentine piece - people have to
give up phones, cameras, whatever at the door. This particular
response ( the pug piece) comes as no surprise to me. I had given some
thought to how one might assert the rights of the audience ( including
those of other artists -the right to record, to think contrary
thoguhts and act upon them &c) vis a vis the Sepentine performance
but couldn't think of anything that either wouldn't involve me getting
arrested or would cost too much.
(3) MA is an art superstar/celebrity. My starting point is that
someone in this extraordinarily unnatural & privileged position has to
repeatedly prove that they are worth it. Ironically the various
satirical japes she has engendered help to confirm her in this role.
cheers
michael
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*From:* Annie Abrahams <[email protected]>
*To:* NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
<[email protected]>
*Sent:* Thursday, August 21, 2014 2:22 PM
*Subject:* Re: [NetBehaviour] MARINA ABRAMOPUG the genius!
I wouldn't like to be made fun of like this, would you?
M A made some errors, but the performance this is referring too was
good as far as I am concerned
Best
Annie
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 1:27 PM, helen varley jamieson
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
it's great :)
On 21/08/14 11:19 AM, marc garrett wrote:
MARINA ABRAMOPUG
The 'official' genius performance artist at Serpentine | best
show yet ;-)
g
More...
http://go.shr.lc/1w2Alcp
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