Alan, networked space, or ³the third space² as I like to call it, is the world we are gravitating towards (no pun intended). I am always surprised the degree to which we forget or don¹t pay attention to whether we are occupying the first space (physical world) or the third space. (by the way, the second space is the representational/symbolic world). We are losing the distinction between the real and the virtual, the two melding together in a kind of ³post reality.² I think for future generations the distinction will no longer matter. Consider that whichever space we are operating in, we will always occupy real, physical space, but our interactions will increasingly be situated on the network: just like right now, as we communicate through this list. So I would disagree that we can¹t prepare, perhaps what it means to be a netartizen is to be self-critical and self-aware about the evolution from the first to the third space. The preparation is in realizing its inevitable and its real.
"The digital, I think, is unbearably fragile; not only is privacy lost, but we are not prepared, and can't prepare, for the attacks and corrosion to come; instead, we grant these worlds a solidity they don't have, never have had." On 3/3/15, 12:28 AM, "Alan Sondheim" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >Hi, a few comments here. My own work is a continuous production which at >one time I characterized as an ongoing meditation on cyberspace; at this >point I see "real" and "virtual" inauthentic (in Adorno's sense), see the >body as inherently entangled among symbolic systems which have always >been >with us, see culture ("real" and "virtual") as characteristic of >organisms >in general, and see abjection/annihilation as increasing endemic in the >world. It's this last I was trying to address; I wrote a text, sent it >through od into hex, mangled the hex, etc.; the main point for me is the >multiplication by zero, the annihilation of difference as the world is >subsumed and flattened. This in fact has been the focus of my work for a >while now, summed up by the phrase (which is also the title of a month's >dialog on empyre, that was moderated by Johannes Birringer and myself) >ISIS, Absolute Terror, Performance - ISIS replaceable by any thing, >group, >etc. insistent on the scorched earth of scorched earth, the elimination >of >culture, difference, the production of genocide and the simultaneous >erasure of that production beneath the sign of what? capital, religion, >ideology, etc. So I use technologies and networking to open up, across >them, the plateaus of urgent response to a crisis which, with increasing >population, temperature, and species extinctions, is bound to dominate, >if >not eliminate, us all. > >I suppose in that sense I'm not a netartizen; I grovel around the real, >trying to deal with issues of slaughter, unutterable pain, anguish, and >so >I probably repeat myself endlessly in this manner. > >The digital, I think, is unbearably fragile; not only is privacy lost, >but >we are not prepared, and can't prepare, for the attacks and corrosion to >come; instead, we grant these worlds a solidity they don't have, never >have had. > >- Alan, and thank you for the opportunity to respond. > >On Mon, 2 Mar 2015, Randall Packer wrote: > >> I am intrigued by Alan Sondheim?s response to our NetArtizens call with >>a >> reference to cultural heritage as a sequence of datapoints, i.e.: >> >> 0000000067141066147020145071157060440063556066145063040* >> 0000020071157072040062550062563061040064545063556020163* >> 0000040067543062555072040071150072557064147060440074556* >> >> Here are some questions to consider: >> >> Are we in fact producing a cultural history that emanates from the >> language of computers? Are the cultural references of today increasingly >> coded in numerical values that will need to be compiled and encoded in >>the >> far future by curious historians of the 21st century? What in fact are >>we >> leaving behind for future generations on our hard drives and cloud >> repositories? And how will the technological culture of today be viewed >> when these values are no longer decipherable. Are we in fact erasing our >> historical past as we create it for the digital future? >> >> Randall >> >> >> >> On 3/2/15, 11:07 AM, "ruth catlow" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Dear NBers >>> >>> You can see some early submissions to 0p3nR3p0 here >>> http://0p3nr3p0.net/show/netartizens >>> >>> I have been tweeting some of them to twitter.com/netartizens using the >>> #netartizens hashtag. >>> >>> Check them out. >>> >>> Send @Lowpolybot your images for auto-asbtract low-polygon artworks by >>> @quasimondo http://bit.ly/18EPVBG. #netartizens >>> >>> net art expressionism or glitchart? - D!G!t4L.DUMP!ng.GR0UND by >>> @domibarra http://bit.ly/1DvQAwN #netartizens >>> >>> The Camera in the Mirror by Mario Santamaria: Google robot sees itself >>> reflected in the mirror. http://bit.ly/1APnn2z #netartizens >>> >>> Cultural Heritage by @alansondheim http://www.alansondheim.org/ch.png >>> #netartizens >>> >>> Cheers >>> Ruth >>> >>> The NetArtizens Project >>> http://www.furtherfield.org/netartizens/ >>> >>> >>> >>> On 02/03/15 13:30, Randall Packer wrote: >>>> Greetings Everyone: >>>> >>>> First, thank you Marc & Ruth, along with Nick Briz & Joseph Chiocchi >>>> from >>>> 0p3nr3p0.net, who have been working for the past weeks to create the >>>> NetArtizens Project, which begins today and culminates with the Art of >>>> the >>>> Networked Practice | Online Symposium (March 31 ? April 2). >>>> >>>> So to begin the conversation, what does it mean to be a NetArtizen? >>>>That >>>> is the subject at hand over the next month, not to be defined by us, >>>>but >>>> fleshed out in in this space through all the varying perspectives that >>>> make up this community. >>>> >>>> And furthermore, as NetArtizens, we ask: how has your practice as an >>>> artist, educator, writer scholar & activist been shaped / catalyzed / >>>> transformed / by your use of the network? How has the Net altered the >>>> creation, contextualization, and diffusion of your work? How has the >>>>Net >>>> impacted your studio process? And finally, in reference to this >>>>forum, >>>> what are the various ?net behaviours? that result in the immersion & >>>> flow >>>> of media creation, research, and information distribution that we >>>> participate in each and every day via the network? >>>> >>>> As we consider and discuss these questions (and more!), we approach >>>>the >>>> NetArtizens Project as an opportunity to experiment in the power of >>>>the >>>> network to catalyze collective narrative. As NetArtizens, we have the >>>> means to tell our stories, share our work, debate our opinions - not >>>> just >>>> as individual broadcasters speaking to the multitude ? but >>>> collaboratively >>>> in a hyper-distributed, socially-engaged, many-to-many exchange of >>>>ideas >>>> and opinion. >>>> >>>> We invite you to explore the NetArtizens Project, survey the landscape >>>> of >>>> discourse & production we have provided, and become a >>>> ?super-participant? >>>> by shaping & sharing & disseminating the ongoing narrative. If the >>>>flow >>>> of >>>> this project becomes a drowning experience, we ask that you embrace >>>>and >>>> critique it! That?s the only way we?ll come to terms and fully grasp >>>>the >>>> meaning of our evolving role as NetArtizens. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Randall >>>> >>>> The NetArtizens Project >>>> http://www.furtherfield.org/netartizens/ >>>> >>>> The Art of the Networked Practice | Online Symposium >>>> http://oss.adm.ntu.edu.sg/symposium2015/ >>>> >>>> Reportage from the Aesthetic Edge >>>> http://www.randallpacker.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3/2/15, 7:00 AM, "ruth catlow"<[email protected]> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Netbehaviourists, >>>>> >>>>> It is our pleasure to introduce Randall Packer, composer, artist, >>>>> writer, educator, former Secretary of the US Department of Art & >>>>> Technology, and convener of the upcoming Art of Networked Practice | >>>>> Online Symposium (31 March 31 ? 2 April 2015). >>>>> >>>>> We have invited Randall to act as host and moderator for The >>>>> NetArtizens >>>>> Project, a month of discourse and artistic production across 3 >>>>>network >>>>> channels including our very own Netbehaviour discussion list, >>>>>beginning >>>>> right here, right now, and leading up to the symposium. You are also >>>>> invited to contribute to the NetArtizens Open Online Exhibition, an >>>>> evolving showcase of works submitted between March 2 ? April 2, 2015. >>>>> >>>>> For more information about The NetArtizens Project and how to >>>>> participate:http://www.furtherfield.org/netartizens/ >>>>> >>>>> We invite you all to join us to explore, express, and debate the role >>>>> of >>>>> the network in our individual and collective practices as artists, >>>>> scholars, educators, and citizens of the Net. >>>>> >>>>> The NetArtizens Project is devised by Furtherfield in collaboration >>>>> with >>>>> Nick Briz & Joseph Chiochhi. >>>>> >>>>> RELEVANT LINKS: >>>>> >>>>> Randall Packer >>>>> http://www.randallpacker.com/ >>>>> >>>>> The NetArtizens Project >>>>> http://www.furtherfield.org/netartizens/ >>>>> >>>>> Art of the Networked Practice | Online Symposium >>>>> http://oss.adm.ntu.edu.sg/symposium2015/ >>>>> >>>>> Randall will say more about it now...! >>>>> Can't wait to see what happens!!! >>>>> >>>>> Marc, Ruth and the Furtherfield Crew >>>>> >>>>> ---> >>>>> >>>>> A living, breathing, thriving networked neighbourhood - proud of free >>>>> culture, claiming it with others ;) >>>>> >>>>> Furtherfield ? online arts community, platforms for creating, >>>>>viewing, >>>>> discussing and learning about experimental practices at the >>>>> intersections of art, technology and social change. >>>>> http://www.furtherfield.org >>>>> >>>>> Reviews, articles, interviewshttp://www.furtherfield.org/features >>>>> >>>>> Furtherfield Gallery ? 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