I've only skimmed this article but it showed up on my tweet feed yesterday
via R.U. Sirius
https://twitter.com/StealThisSingul/status/572917180506902528
"Maidan, Caliphate, and Code: Theorizing Power and Resistance in the 21st
Century"
http://www.ctheory.net/articles.aspx?id=741

also, I know they've been talking about IoT for a while as I recall
lecturers talking about it (in general terms) in early 90s whilst studying
networks & IPv6 (& I work for Cisco who coined the phrase). I think it's
like everything - there's always a way to protect yourself if you should
want to so I don't see it as a threat, more an opportunity.


On 5 March 2015 at 17:32, Alan Sondheim <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Do you honestly believe, with all the hacking/corrosion/cyberwarfare going
> on, that regulations will make the slightest bit of difference? The
> consolidation is already occurring, as well as enclaving, ISISolation that
> moves the 'caliphate' into the cybersphere, as well as on the ground, all
> entangled.
>
> - Alan
>
> On Wed, 4 Mar 2015, BishopZ wrote:
>
>  the Internet of Things will inevitably consolidate corporate power over
>> our personal liberty unless we implement strict regulations on what part
>> of ourselves can and cannot be quantified
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Randall Packer <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "What are we, as NetArtizens doing/writing/ about it (when the land
>>>>>>> is scorched from war and climate change)? I think this is critical,
>>>>>>> fundamental."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> @Alan, what we are doing about it, here, is opening up lines of
>>> communication. In a world where negotiation and conflict resolution are
>>> upended by unreasonable geo-political differences and the refusal to
>>> speak
>>> openly, honestly, and directly: we as #netartizens can be a **model**
>>> (and
>>> yes, that?s essentially the role of the artist to model) by engaging one
>>>
>>> another under the radar, speaking out, openly with our work & our
>>> (net)work & our voices, to help paint + perform + mediate new ideas,
>>> words
>>> and portraits of **our** vision of humanity.
>>>
>>> We have to speak in order to be heard.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/3/15, 1:15 PM, "Alan Sondheim" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> What happens when these spaces disappear? They've always been entangled.
>>>> Take Syria, today (literally researched released today) postulates that
>>>> the war/s there are in part the result of climate change. Who will be
>>>> physical when the land is scorched? And perhaps more to the point, what
>>>> are we, as NetArtizens doing/writing/ about it? I think this is
>>>> critical,
>>>> fundamental.
>>>>
>>>> On the other point, I don't find the world divided in any sense into
>>>> three
>>>> spaces; there are any number of divisions that might or might not be
>>>> made,
>>>> and I think they obscure the entanglements and fuzzy boundaries we all
>>>> live within (for example, ourselves and everything else, as microbial
>>>> life). For me, that neatness has disappeared, just as "real" and
>>>> "virtual"
>>>> seem still to be inauthentic categories; when amoeba can learn, without
>>>> the presence of a nervous system, what world are they living in? What
>>>> world are we? I remember von Foerster defining life as fundamentally
>>>> characterized by negation, for example, logic and categorization all the
>>>> way down.
>>>>
>>>> - Alan
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 3 Mar 2015, Randall Packer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Alan, networked space, or ?the third space? as I like to call it, is
>>>>> the
>>>>> world we are gravitating towards (no pun intended). I am always
>>>>> surprised
>>>>> the degree to which we forget or don?t pay attention to whether we are
>>>>> occupying the first space (physical world) or the third space. (by the
>>>>> way, the second space is the representational/symbolic world). We are
>>>>> losing the distinction between the real and the virtual, the two
>>>>> melding
>>>>> together in a kind of ?post reality.? I think for future generations
>>>>> the
>>>>> distinction will no longer matter. Consider that whichever space we are
>>>>> operating in, we will always occupy real, physical space, but our
>>>>> interactions will increasingly be situated on the network: just like
>>>>> right
>>>>> now, as we communicate through this list. So I would disagree that we
>>>>> can?t prepare, perhaps what it means to be a netartizen is to be
>>>>> self-critical and self-aware about the evolution from the first to the
>>>>> third space. The preparation is in realizing its inevitable and its
>>>>> real.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "The digital, I think, is unbearably fragile; not only is privacy lost,
>>>>> but
>>>>> we are not prepared, and can't prepare, for the attacks and corrosion
>>>>> to
>>>>> come; instead, we grant these worlds a solidity they don't have, never
>>>>> have had."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/3/15, 12:28 AM, "Alan Sondheim" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, a few comments here. My own work is a continuous production which
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> one time I characterized as an ongoing meditation on cyberspace; at
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> point I see "real" and "virtual" inauthentic (in Adorno's sense), see
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> body as inherently entangled among symbolic systems which have always
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> with us, see culture ("real" and "virtual") as characteristic of
>>>>>> organisms
>>>>>> in general, and see abjection/annihilation as increasing endemic in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> world. It's this last I was trying to address; I wrote a text, sent it
>>>>>> through od into hex, mangled the hex, etc.; the main point for me is
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> multiplication by zero, the annihilation of difference as the world is
>>>>>> subsumed and flattened. This in fact has been the focus of my work for
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> while now, summed up by the phrase (which is also the title of a
>>>>>> month's
>>>>>> dialog on empyre, that was moderated by Johannes Birringer and myself)
>>>>>> ISIS, Absolute Terror, Performance - ISIS replaceable by any thing,
>>>>>> group,
>>>>>> etc. insistent on the scorched earth of scorched earth, the
>>>>>> elimination
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> culture, difference, the production of genocide and the simultaneous
>>>>>> erasure of that production beneath the sign of what? capital,
>>>>>> religion,
>>>>>> ideology, etc. So I use technologies and networking to open up, across
>>>>>> them, the plateaus of urgent response to a crisis which, with
>>>>>> increasing
>>>>>> population, temperature, and species extinctions, is bound to
>>>>>> dominate,
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> not eliminate, us all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suppose in that sense I'm not a netartizen; I grovel around the
>>>>>> real,
>>>>>> trying to deal with issues of slaughter, unutterable pain, anguish,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> I probably repeat myself endlessly in this manner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The digital, I think, is unbearably fragile; not only is privacy lost,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> we are not prepared, and can't prepare, for the attacks and corrosion
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> come; instead, we grant these worlds a solidity they don't have, never
>>>>>> have had.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Alan, and thank you for the opportunity to respond.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 2 Mar 2015, Randall Packer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I am intrigued by Alan Sondheim?s response to our NetArtizens call
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> reference to cultural heritage as a sequence of datapoints, i.e.:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 0000000067141066147020145071157060440063556066145063040*
>>>>>>> 0000020071157072040062550062563061040064545063556020163*
>>>>>>> 0000040067543062555072040071150072557064147060440074556*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here are some questions to consider:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are we in fact producing a cultural history that emanates from the
>>>>>>> language of computers? Are the cultural references of today
>>>>>>> increasingly
>>>>>>> coded in numerical values that will need to be compiled and encoded
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> far future by curious historians of the 21st century? What in fact
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> leaving behind for future generations on our hard drives and cloud
>>>>>>> repositories? And how will the technological culture of today be
>>>>>>> viewed
>>>>>>> when these values are no longer decipherable. Are we in fact erasing
>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>> historical past as we create it for the digital future?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Randall
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/2/15, 11:07 AM, "ruth catlow" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Dear NBers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can see some early submissions to 0p3nR3p0 here
>>>>>>>> http://0p3nr3p0.net/show/netartizens
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have been tweeting some of them to twitter.com/netartizens using
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> #netartizens hashtag.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Check them out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Send @Lowpolybot your images for auto-asbtract low-polygon artworks
>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>> @quasimondo http://bit.ly/18EPVBG. #netartizens
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> net art expressionism or glitchart? - D!G!t4L.DUMP!ng.GR0UND by
>>>>>>>> @domibarra http://bit.ly/1DvQAwN #netartizens
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Camera in the Mirror by Mario Santamaria: Google robot sees
>>>>>>>> itself
>>>>>>>> reflected in the mirror. http://bit.ly/1APnn2z #netartizens
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cultural Heritage by @alansondheim http://www.alansondheim.org/
>>>>>>>> ch.png
>>>>>>>> #netartizens
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The NetArtizens Project
>>>>>>>> http://www.furtherfield.org/netartizens/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 02/03/15 13:30, Randall Packer wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Greetings Everyone:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First, thank you Marc & Ruth, along with Nick Briz & Joseph
>>>>>>>>> Chiocchi
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> 0p3nr3p0.net, who have been working for the past weeks to create
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> NetArtizens Project, which begins today and culminates with the Art
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Networked Practice | Online Symposium (March 31 ? April 2).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So to begin the conversation, what does it mean to be a NetArtizen?
>>>>>>>>> That
>>>>>>>>> is the subject at hand over the next month, not to be defined by
>>>>>>>>> us,
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> fleshed out in in this space through all the varying perspectives
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> make up this community.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And furthermore, as NetArtizens, we ask: how has your practice as
>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>> artist, educator, writer scholar & activist been shaped / catalyzed
>>>>>>>>> /
>>>>>>>>> transformed / by your use of the network? How has the Net altered
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> creation, contextualization, and diffusion of your work? How has
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Net
>>>>>>>>> impacted your studio process?  And finally, in reference to this
>>>>>>>>> forum,
>>>>>>>>> what are the various ?net behaviours? that result in the immersion
>>>>>>>>> &
>>>>>>>>> flow
>>>>>>>>> of media creation, research, and information distribution that we
>>>>>>>>> participate in each and every day via the network?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As we consider and discuss these questions (and more!), we approach
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> NetArtizens Project as an opportunity to experiment in the power of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> network to catalyze collective narrative. As NetArtizens, we have
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> means to tell our stories, share our work, debate our opinions -
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>> as individual broadcasters speaking to the multitude ? but
>>>>>>>>> collaboratively
>>>>>>>>> in a hyper-distributed, socially-engaged, many-to-many exchange of
>>>>>>>>> ideas
>>>>>>>>> and opinion.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We invite you to explore the NetArtizens Project, survey the
>>>>>>>>> landscape
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> discourse & production we have provided, and become a
>>>>>>>>> ?super-participant?
>>>>>>>>> by shaping & sharing & disseminating the ongoing narrative. If the
>>>>>>>>> flow
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> this project becomes a drowning experience, we ask that you embrace
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> critique it! That?s the only way we?ll come to terms and fully
>>>>>>>>> grasp
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> meaning of our evolving role as NetArtizens.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Randall
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The NetArtizens Project
>>>>>>>>> http://www.furtherfield.org/netartizens/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Art of the Networked Practice | Online Symposium
>>>>>>>>> http://oss.adm.ntu.edu.sg/symposium2015/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Reportage from the Aesthetic Edge
>>>>>>>>> http://www.randallpacker.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 3/2/15, 7:00 AM, "ruth catlow"<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Dear Netbehaviourists,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is our pleasure to introduce Randall Packer, composer, artist,
>>>>>>>>>> writer, educator, former Secretary of the US Department of Art &
>>>>>>>>>> Technology, and convener of the upcoming Art of Networked Practice
>>>>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>>>>> Online Symposium (31 March 31 ? 2 April 2015).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We have invited Randall to act as host and moderator for The
>>>>>>>>>> NetArtizens
>>>>>>>>>> Project, a month of discourse and artistic production across 3
>>>>>>>>>> network
>>>>>>>>>> channels including our very own Netbehaviour discussion list,
>>>>>>>>>> beginning
>>>>>>>>>> right here, right now, and leading  up to the symposium. You are
>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>> invited to contribute to the NetArtizens Open Online Exhibition,
>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>> evolving showcase of works submitted between March 2 ? April 2,
>>>>>>>>>> 2015.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For more information about The NetArtizens Project and how to
>>>>>>>>>> participate:http://www.furtherfield.org/netartizens/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We invite you all to join us to explore, express, and debate the
>>>>>>>>>> role
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> the network in our individual and collective practices as artists,
>>>>>>>>>> scholars, educators, and citizens of the Net.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The NetArtizens Project is devised by Furtherfield in
>>>>>>>>>> collaboration
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> Nick Briz & Joseph Chiochhi.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> RELEVANT LINKS:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Randall Packer
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.randallpacker.com/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The NetArtizens Project
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.furtherfield.org/netartizens/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Art of the Networked Practice | Online Symposium
>>>>>>>>>> http://oss.adm.ntu.edu.sg/symposium2015/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Randall will say more about it now...!
>>>>>>>>>> Can't wait to see what happens!!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Marc, Ruth and the Furtherfield Crew
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --->
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A living, breathing, thriving networked neighbourhood - proud of
>>>>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>>>>> culture, claiming it with others ;)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Furtherfield ? online arts community, platforms for creating,
>>>>>>>>>> viewing,
>>>>>>>>>> discussing and learning about experimental practices at the
>>>>>>>>>> intersections of art, technology and social change.
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.furtherfield.org
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Reviews, articles, interviewshttp://www.furtherfield.org/features
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Furtherfield Gallery ? Finsbury Park, London.
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.furtherfield.org/gallery
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Netbehaviour - Networked Artists List Community.
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org
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